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Himura Kenshin
Discuss.

Also, hope McGahee is alright.
SATANIKNUKLEARDESTRUKTORKOMMANDO
fucking faggot eagles

rootin for the cardinals anyway fuck PISSburgh p6421.gif p6421.gif p6421.gif
The Clown
Here we go Steelers, here we go!

Ditto on the hoping McGahee is alright. Also, Roethlisberger is the only Steeler to stay on the field after Tyrone Carter got to the side lines. That's classy by him.
Trogdor the Burninator
poop, i probably won't even watch

patriots in 2010
YoungWhipperSnapper
Love that the Cards are in. Finally!
Himura Kenshin
QUOTE(The Clown @ Jan 19 2009, 01:11 AM) *

Here we go Steelers, here we go!

Ditto on the hoping McGahee is alright. Also, Roethlisberger is the only Steeler to stay on the field after Tyrone Carter got to the side lines. That's classy by him.

Yeah, B-Ro has always been like that. One of the reasons I like him as a player. Was real glad to see McGahee moving a bit though.

Clean hit, though? What do you all think?
Usurper
I'm rooting for Cardinals, but you all probably figured that out, right? ;-)
Trogdor the Burninator
baseball season
SATANIKNUKLEARDESTRUKTORKOMMANDO
QUOTE(Himura Kenshin @ Jan 19 2009, 03:41 PM) *

Clean hit, though? What do you all think?

didn't look intentional or negligent to me, just an unfortunate accident

It looks like he'll be alright, anyway.
The Clown
QUOTE(Himura Kenshin @ Jan 19 2009, 10:41 AM) *

Yeah, B-Ro has always been like that. One of the reasons I like him as a player. Was real glad to see McGahee moving a bit though.

Clean hit, though? What do you all think?


Yes, clean hit. Carter led with his shoulder, and McGahee just lowered his head to try to get the extra yards and it ended up in the wrong place. I have yet to hear anyone (aside from angry Ravens fans, of course) actually suggest it was dirty hit, just an unfortunate one.
SATANIKNUKLEARDESTRUKTORKOMMANDO
QUOTE(merriweatherpostpavillion. @ Jan 19 2009, 07:23 PM) *

baseball season

NASCAR season

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18 With a Bullet
honestly who the fuck are these teams


go raiders
Da Bears
Go Cards. Fuck Pittsburg.

I hope Hines Ward has a career ending injury.
The Clown
QUOTE(Da Bears @ Jan 20 2009, 09:54 PM) *

Go Cards. Fuck Pittsburg.

I hope Hines Ward has a career ending injury.


1. Wishing a career ending injury on someone is as low as it gets. Of course, what could I expect from a fan of a team of thugs like the Bengals. Don't be butthurt that your team is a joke. I'm sure one day Carson Palmer will guide them to the playoffs so they can get bounced in the wild card round again. Then again, it's been 3 seasons without them even sniffing them, so maybe that year was just a fluke.

2. Pittsburgh has an h on the end, you dumb fucking hick.

3. You wish there was a receiver on your team as good as Hines Ward. You wish any of the Bengals showboat receivers was near the blocker Hines Ward is. You wish Chad Johnson could actually hold onto the football like Hines does instead of planning his next retarded celebration. You wish your team had a Super Bowl MVP player on it, or even a Super Bowl caliber player.

4. All indications are that Ward will be healthy for the Super Bowl. Fuck yo couch.
Trogdor the Burninator
for real though hines ward is a crybaby bitch and i hope that the cardinals fuck the steelers in the ass with no lube. steely mcbeam will be fellating the state of arizona one at a time.
Da Bears
QUOTE(The Clown @ Jan 21 2009, 12:09 AM) *

1. Wishing a career ending injury on someone is as low as it gets. Of course, what could I expect from a fan of a team of thugs like the Bengals. Don't be butthurt that your team is a joke. I'm sure one day Carson Palmer will guide them to the playoffs so they can get bounced in the wild card round again. Then again, it's been 3 seasons without them even sniffing them, so maybe that year was just a fluke.

2. Pittsburgh has an h on the end, you dumb fucking hick.

3. You wish there was a receiver on your team as good as Hines Ward. You wish any of the Bengals showboat receivers was near the blocker Hines Ward is. You wish Chad Johnson could actually hold onto the football like Hines does instead of planning his next retarded celebration. You wish your team had a Super Bowl MVP player on it, or even a Super Bowl caliber player.

4. All indications are that Ward will be healthy for the Super Bowl. Fuck yo couch.


Oh, thanks for correcting my fucking spelling error. Suck my cock.

And I'll say it again, fuck Hine Ward, I hope he has a career ending injury.

Also, thanks again for pointing out the obvious that my team is a joke, of course they are...they have Ryan Fitzpatrick as their QB. Why don't you look at how good the bengals played defensively this year, I was so happy. I knew they would suck in the win loss category, they didn't have Carson. But next year I expect much better play because after all....they will have Carson back.

And fuck you for saying the BEngals got "bounced" by the Steeler. Van Olen HOffen or whatever the fuck his faggot ass name was took a cheap shot at our QB's knee, typical dirty fucking play by a steeler defender. No suprise the Bengals lost to the wild card team, Jon Kitna was playing. If you don't recall correctly, Carson first throw was a 50 yard bomb to Chris Henry. ANd if he had played the rest of the game I"m sure moreo f that would have kept coming. I hope someone hits Ben in his fucking knee so you know what its like to see your star player have a season ending injury because of a cheap shot.

So I'll say it again, fuck the Steelers, fuck Ben, fuck Ward, mad love for Santonio however.

ALso, I didn't even get into the injuries the BEngals had to endure this season. Hell, I'll even give props to the Browns, both teams had so many injuries that they were digging deep into their depth chart. No wonder the Steelers won the division easily this year.

And hick? haha, good one.
Da Bears
And this whole "thug" conception of the Bengals is so old news my friend. You're like ESPN, just saying the same shit over and over and over and over.....

It's fucking annoying. There's a 1 year stretch of rough times for a franchise because of the actions of a few players, and I stil have to hear "thug?"

I'd rather be a "thug" than a dirty fucking player like the Steeler team.

And I'd take TJ over Hines Ward any day. Hell I'd rather have anyone in the NFL over that piece of shit Ward.
The Clown
QUOTE(Da Bears @ Jan 22 2009, 03:15 PM) *

Oh, thanks for correcting my fucking spelling error. Suck my cock.


Welcome.

QUOTE(Da Bears @ Jan 22 2009, 03:15 PM) *
And I'll say it again, fuck Hine Ward, I hope he has a career ending injury.

Also, thanks again for pointing out the obvious that my team is a joke, of course they are...they have Ryan Fitzpatrick as their QB. Why don't you look at how good the bengals played defensively this year, I was so happy. I knew they would suck in the win loss category, they didn't have Carson. But next year I expect much better play because after all....they will have Carson back.


Why is it that they've had Carson Palmer since 2003, he's been the starter since 2004, and the Bengals have only made the playoffs once in his career? Could it be he's not the godsend you think he is? I mean, the Colts had extremely shitty defense for years before they finally got Freeney and Sanders, but Peyton Manning was still able to take them to the playoffs consistently. The Bengals have only even had a winning season once with Palmer as their QB, and that was the same one year they made the playoffs. Sorry, but if you've got supposedly elite receiving talent, a supposedly elite QB, and a supposedly solid RB (Rudi Johnson until they dumped him), and a solid offensive line, I think you can eke out a 9-7 season at least no matter how bad your D is. The Bengals offense just isn't all it's cracked up to be.

QUOTE(Da Bears @ Jan 22 2009, 03:15 PM) *
And fuck you for saying the BEngals got "bounced" by the Steeler. Van Olen HOffen or whatever the fuck his faggot ass name was took a cheap shot at our QB's knee, typical dirty fucking play by a steeler defender.


He got blocked into Palmer's knee. Watch the video. Your left tackle cut blocks Kimo and he falls. After that, the tackle basically moved out of the way and momentum took over. It would have been a good block if the tackle finished the play, and it's unfortunate for Carson Palmer's knee that he didn't, but you're not going to stop 300-plus pounds mid-fall.

Also, I don't know if you know the whole history, but Kimo and Palmer went to USC together and were pretty close friends. I'm pretty sure you don't take out your friend's MCL on purpose, no matter how competitive the game is.

And you can say "typical dirty play" all day. I know the Bengals have never had a hard hitting defense, but it's called playing football. If it's not flagged, it's not a dirty play. People get mad that their players get lit up by Steelers defenders (and wide receivers), but you don't come to play flag football. You come to hit hard and hopefully force a fumble. You'll notice that teams that have that philosophy are usually Super Bowl contenders. You wanna talk dirty? Watch offensive linemen play James Harrison. He gets held almost every play with no flag, and yet he's still dominant enough to be the defensive player of the year.

QUOTE(Da Bears @ Jan 22 2009, 03:15 PM) *
No suprise the Bengals lost to the wild card team, Jon Kitna was playing. If you don't recall correctly, Carson first throw was a 50 yard bomb to Chris Henry. ANd if he had played the rest of the game I"m sure moreo f that would have kept coming. I hope someone hits Ben in his fucking knee so you know what its like to see your star player have a season ending injury because of a cheap shot.


1. Palmer's first pass was nice, but didn't account for any points. The Steelers held the Bengals to a field goal and then Kitna drove them downfield to set them up for a 20-yard TD run by Rudi Johnson. 10-0 Bengals. Two things are proven here: one, that the running game was working very well, and 2, that Kitna could have managed that game to victory.

2. Carson Palmer wouldn't have been on the field to stop the 60-yard drive by the Steelers that led to a TD catch from Willie Parker. That's all on the defense. When your starting QB goes down, the defense has to step up and play playoff football, and the Bengals weren't able to do that.

3. Kitna threw a TD to Douchemanzadeh on the next play, making it a 17-7 lead and once again proving that he could manage the game to victory. Again the defense allowed a TD drive by the Steelers, cutting the lead from 10 points to 3 points. Palmer doesn't play defense, and he wouldn't have been able to stop that. Still, the Bengals had a half-time lead of 3 points. They were winning the game without their star QB.

4. Carson Palmer wouldn't have stopped a botched snap on a FG attempt that could have put the Bengals up by 6 from happening.

5. After that, the Bengals defense was again unable to stop the Steeler offense as the Bus ran it in for a TD.

6. Carson Palmer's injury had nothing to do with the Bengals defense falling for a trick play where Cedrick Wilson was left as wide open as I've ever seen any receiver for a TD.

7. Even if Jon Kitna didn't play a respectable game (which he did), the fact remains: injuries are part of the game. It's up to the front office to provide depth all the way through the chart so that if somebody goes down, the replacement can do nearly as well. If Big Ben goes down, Charlie Batch (Byron Lefwich this season) is good enough to step in and get the job done for a game or two. I feel the Bengals had that in Kitna, but their injury-free defense is what lost the game, not the offense.

By the way, the Colts were a much better team than Cinci that year, and the Steelers beat them too with no QB injury needed. If you're really going to argue that Palmer is better than Peyton Manning, you're insane.

QUOTE(Da Bears @ Jan 22 2009, 03:15 PM) *
So I'll say it again, fuck the Steelers, fuck Ben, fuck Ward, mad love for Santonio however.

ALso, I didn't even get into the injuries the BEngals had to endure this season. Hell, I'll even give props to the Browns, both teams had so many injuries that they were digging deep into their depth chart. No wonder the Steelers won the division easily this year.

And hick? haha, good one.


And I'll say it again: injuries are part of the game. A big part of having a Super Bowl-caliber team is having the backup talent necessary to carry the load when the starter goes down. I guess the Bengals don't have that, but the Steelers certainly do. Let's examine:

Before the season even started, the Steelers lost their backup QB and starting punter to the IR. The front office was smart enough to go out and sign Leftwich as a backup rather than save money by letting Dennis Dixon try to handle it in his rookie year because they realized how important depth is. As you can imagine, free agent punters are free agents for a reason and the Steelers have been through two replacements this year, neither of which comes close to Daniel Sepulveda's ability.

Willie Parker has been injured most of this season, and his primary backup, Rashard Mendenhall, has been on IR since week 5. And yet the Steelers had enough RB depth that Mewelde Moore could carry the load until Parker came back.

Kendall Simmons, the starting right guard, has been on IR since week 5 as well, bringing the total tally to 4 Steelers on IR this season, and yet Darnell Stapleton was able to do in and make a good enough case for himself that he may even start at RG next year. Why? Depth.

Late in the season, starting left tackle Marvel Smith was placed on IR as well, bringing the count to 5 Steelers on IR, yet Max Starks has done an adequate job taking his place. Why? Depth.

For a few weeks at the beginning of the season, the Steelers had more injuries to their starters than ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE NFL, yet they posted a 6-2 record for their first 8 games of the statistically toughest schedule in modern NFL history, including a win against the Ravens and a blowout against your shitty Bengals. Why? Because the Steelers have depth and the Bengals don't.

Deshea Townsend was out early this year, and at one point William Gay, their dime corner, had to be a starter to account for injuries. And yet the Steelers maintained the #1 pass defense in the league because they had the depth to do so.

Brett Keisel is a big reason the Steeler run defense is so good, and yet he was out for multiple games this season. Depth in the defensive line is a weak area of the Steelers, and their run defense slipped with Keisel's absence, but they were still good enough to finish as the #2 run defense in the league because the linebackers are so good and because Keisel's replacement was able to step up for a few games and do what he had to.

Casey Hampton is one of the best defensive tackles in the game, yet when he came to camp out of shape he was benched and Chris Hoke was able to look just as dominant as Hampton did for the first few weeks of the season until Hampton got back into shape. Why? Because the Steelers have depth.

Several times this season, linebackers have been injured and Lawrence Timmons has moved from the nickel to the base defense and shifted Andre Frazier to his spot in the nickel. Both performed incredibly well, and there's a good case for Timmons to be on the field as a permanent starter next year. Why? The Steelers have depth at linebacker.

If injuries were really the biggest factor, the Ravens could have won the division easily, or at least beat the Steelers the first time they played when the Steelers were the most injured team in the NFL. Instead they got swept by Pittsburgh and lost again in the AFC Championship.

Right now, despite having 5 players on the IR and despite being the most injured team in the league at one point, including 2 starters from an already shitty offensive line, the Steelers are playing in the Super Bowl. So take your injury excuses and shove it. Your team needs better backups.
Da Bears
That's too long to read, you're right. I give up.

And Carson has done his job...it's the defense that hasn't done their jobs. He puts up numbers.
The Clown
QUOTE(Da Bears @ Jan 23 2009, 04:44 PM) *

That's too long to read, you're right. I give up.

And Carson has done his job...it's the defense that hasn't done their jobs. He puts up numbers.


Palmer had one good year. After that, he's been consistently mediocre, and before he got hurt this year he had one more INT than TD.

Also, summary of my last post: Kimo was blocked into Palmer's knee, so blame your tackle. Injuries are part of the game, and your team lacks the depth to win a championship. The Steelers were injured a lot too and they're in the Super Bowl.
Grimes
Steelers win it 27-23. Other than that final interception, the first half was pretty boring. Lots and lots of poor and missed tackles.

Second half was considerably more interesting. The back-and-forth was what a high-profile game between two teams that not a whole lot of people have stake in should be. I could care less who won, but it was nice to see a Buckeye make such a spectacular catch to ultimately win it.
The Clown
Great game, great result, fantastic final quarter.

Santonio Holmes was absolutely deserving of the MVP, though I feel Harrison could have gotten co-MVP.

I actually feel like a dick for rooting for the Cardinals to lose this game. They've been horrible for almost their entire existence as a franchise, Kurt Warner is one of my favorite QBs of all time, and just the look on Larry Fitzgerald's face when Santonio Holmes made the game-winning catch brought all of those "if this were a sports movie, my team would totally be the bad guys" feelings out. If it was any team but Pittsburgh as their opponent, I'd be rooting for the Cardinals.

Da Bears: We dey. Again.
YoungWhipperSnapper
I have an odd feeling James Harrison is taking steroids. Evident by the constant raping of Mike Gandy and the obvious roid rage display punching a Cardinal on the ground.
The Clown
QUOTE(YoungWhipperSnapper @ Feb 2 2009, 11:33 AM) *

I have an odd feeling James Harrison is taking steroids. Evident by the constant raping of Mike Gandy and the obvious roid rage display punching a Cardinal on the ground.


The NFL is not Major League Baseball. They have much more strict steroid testing, and people get caught for doing it. If said player was Defensive Player of the Year, they'd definitely know.

Also, James Harrison has been a mammoth since college. Even when he was in the process of getting cut four times, he was huge. It's just because he has so much weight on such a short body.

He's also just an asshole in general, and punching that dude was an asshole move. He had to replace Joey Porter in the Steelers system...in every regard.
YoungWhipperSnapper
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Me James Harrison. Me Angry!!!

For those who didn't see. Smart penalty though since they were down at the one. It's supposed to be a 15 yard penalty but because of the field position they only get moved back less than half a yard.
Usurper
It was a good game that could have gone either way. Solid entertainment.


Fuck James Harrison, though, he's going to be hated in AZ more than Robert Horry.
The Clown
I agree with the foul on Harrison, but this guy makes a good point:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/119049-...god-intended-it
YoungWhipperSnapper
QUOTE(The Clown @ Feb 3 2009, 08:19 PM) *

I agree with the foul on Harrison, but this guy makes a good point:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/119049-...god-intended-it


Except the gif I posted was in real time and he still looks like a jackass.
Usurper
QUOTE(The Clown @ Feb 3 2009, 06:19 PM) *

I agree with the foul on Harrison, but this guy makes a good point:


So how much contact is too much then? You can't argue that it's the way football was meant to be played when most people acknowledge the foul. I say it was excessive and unsportsmanlike. I appreciate the Steelers' aggression, but they're a bunch of fucking thugs.
The Clown
All I'm saying is, there was no whistle. You're taught to play to the whistle, and that's what he did. The only reason I think it was excessive is because he should have moved on to block the next guy instead of just standing there waiting on the Cardinals player to get up so he can shove him again. That's also when the flag was thrown, so I suppose the refs agree with me on that one. However, the rest of that play, the Cardinals player was trying to chop him, so he removed him from the play. That's just doing what you're supposed to do.

The little chop to the back of the head is done by offensive linemen all the time, and nobody ever says they "should be thrown out of the game" for it.
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