YoungWhipperSnapper
Nov 16 2008, 01:31 AM
Hit him in the temple I don't care. When you got hands the size of bricks and your glove size is 4XL you can't micromanage where you hit a guy. That fight was osum.
Zebrahead
Nov 16 2008, 02:36 AM
Couture got owned because he couldn't get Lesnar off of his feet.
Hell of a fight.
The President
Nov 16 2008, 11:23 AM
Brock then picked up Coture's lifeless body and F5'd him over the cage, breaking the announcer's table and making Joe Rogan fall out of his seat.
Poopington
Nov 16 2008, 02:49 PM
Lesnar definitely impressed me way more in that fight than in his other three so far. That's the guy I was expecting him to be from the start.
I still felt a little ripped off, though. Couture is clearly the better fighter, and it's only in the heavyweight division there could be such a huge difference in weight. Wrestling knows better than anybody how important weight can be, with their huge amount of weight classes (although, obviously, they also have a heavyweight division at some point).
It looked to me like Couture was controlling the fight, even though he lost the first round. Lesnar seemed way more winded, and his only long fight so far was nowhere near the battle this one was. Lesnar did a bitchin' job of neutralizing Couture's usual shit, though. He's obviously a hell of a wrestler, if he managed to take Couture down, even though Randy stopped him from doing any damage in those cases. Lesnar also impressed me in the clinch, though. Even more than GNP Couture's always gone for dirty boxing, and Lesnar was pretty much trading with him in that respect, even if he likely doesn't have near the staying power of Couture.
Anyway, though, anybody can get rocked by a hit, and that's what happened. Then Brock did his little hammerfists he loves so much. Not that I'd like to take thirty of those to the face...but he still looks silly when he does them.
I doubt it'll ever happen, but I'd really liked to see Josh Barnett vs Lesnar.
And I will enjoy seeing Minotauro walk through Lesnar in a few months.
Trogdor the Burninator
Nov 16 2008, 02:55 PM
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA STAND UP.
The President
Nov 16 2008, 11:26 PM
QUOTE(Poopington @ Nov 16 2008, 02:49 PM)

Couture is clearly the better fighter,
Who won last night lol
Poopington
Nov 17 2008, 01:30 AM
QUOTE(The President @ Nov 16 2008, 08:26 PM)

Who won last night lol
who's fifty pounds heavier and way stronger and younge rlol
Couture is the better fighter. If you have any opinions that can bring that into question I'd like to hear them.
The President
Nov 17 2008, 06:53 PM
He lost, he is obviously not better.
The Clown
Nov 18 2008, 12:54 AM
Brock's hammerfists look so ridiculous. I'm sure they hurt like a motherfucker, though.
Lesnar is a good fighter.
peppermintfatty
Nov 21 2008, 12:04 AM
QUOTE(The President @ Nov 17 2008, 12:26 AM)

Who won last night lol
Bigger, faster, younger, stronger, better reach = Better
If they were the same age Brock would still be bigger, faster, as good a wrestler, and have a massive reach advantage.
The President
Nov 23 2008, 12:02 PM
So he is better, correct?
Poopington
Nov 23 2008, 01:05 PM
No. Lesnar could beat GSP, too. But GSP is a way better fighter than him.
YoungWhipperSnapper
Nov 23 2008, 02:22 PM
I feel like Ground and Pound isn't getting enough respect
The Clown
Nov 23 2008, 03:12 PM
QUOTE(YoungWhipperSnapper @ Nov 23 2008, 02:22 PM)

I feel like Ground and Pound isn't getting enough respect
Same.
Some say it's amateurish. I the current UFC Champ uses it.
Poopington
Nov 23 2008, 03:46 PM
Weird, I've never heard anybody talk bad about gnp. Particularly in the UFC, it's almost the standard.
Mormegil
Nov 24 2008, 02:09 AM
QUOTE(Poopington @ Nov 23 2008, 02:05 PM)

No. Lesnar could beat GSP, too. But GSP is a way better fighter than him.
This doesn't compute.
Poopington
Nov 24 2008, 02:49 PM
?
If GSP was Lesnar's size, he'd whoop his ass. Because he's a better fighter. But if they fought how they are now, Lesnar would beat him up.
The Clown
Nov 29 2008, 09:36 PM
So what you're saying is that pound for pound, GSP is better.
That's all well and good, but the UFC doesn't work that way. Your physical frame is part of you as a fighter.
Poopington
Nov 29 2008, 10:22 PM
QUOTE(The Clown @ Nov 29 2008, 06:36 PM)

So what you're saying is that pound for pound, GSP is better.
That's all well and good, but the UFC doesn't work that way. Your physical frame is part of you as a fighter.
o rly?
I wasn't trying to say the fight was a sham or something because Lesnar's bigger. I was just saying Randy's a better fighter. And I was complaining because there are no other weight divisions where you can find a fighter forty pounds heavier than you. Hell, most fighters are within five pounds of eachother at weigh-ins.
Da Bears
Dec 3 2008, 11:47 AM
Dude all he is saying is Lesnar is much larger than Couture. That is a huge advantage because when you get to the heavy weight division there is no weight range to fall into...and you can out weight your opponent by a lot.
YoungWhipperSnapper
Dec 4 2008, 12:15 AM
People aren't giving Brock enough credit. Yeah he is raw and big but he is a good GNPer. He won an NCAA title or two in college. Plus if Couture was that good then he should have watched UFC 1 when Royce Gracie beat a guy that was 40 pounds heavier than him unlike Couture.
Poopington
Dec 4 2008, 12:58 AM
QUOTE(YoungWhipperSnapper @ Dec 3 2008, 09:15 PM)

People aren't giving Brock enough credit. Yeah he is raw and big but he is a good GNPer. He won an NCAA title or two in college. Plus if Couture was that good then he should have watched UFC 1 when Royce Gracie beat a guy that was 40 pounds heavier than him unlike Couture.
I do think Brock is a good wrestler. He really impressed me in how he handled Couture, because I thought it was gonna go the other way. To call him a good GNPer is ridiculous, though, if you watched his fight with Herring. I'm sure he will be one someday, and he's definitely got some power, as evidenced by his fights with Mir and Couture, but he's super green in MMA no matter how good a wrestler he is.
And comparing Couture/Lesnar to Gracie/Shamrock (is that what you're talking about? I'm sure the other people Gracie fought had almost as much of a weight advantage, anyway) is kind of silly. That was a whole new kind of MMA, and nobody knew what to expect, least of all the fighters. And BJJ depends a whole lot less on weight and muscle than wrestling does.
YoungWhipperSnapper
Dec 4 2008, 10:04 AM
QUOTE(Poopington @ Dec 4 2008, 12:58 AM)

I do think Brock is a good wrestler. He really impressed me in how he handled Couture, because I thought it was gonna go the other way. To call him a good GNPer is ridiculous, though, if you watched his fight with Herring. I'm sure he will be one someday, and he's definitely got some power, as evidenced by his fights with Mir and Couture, but he's super green in MMA no matter how good a wrestler he is.
And comparing Couture/Lesnar to Gracie/Shamrock (is that what you're talking about? I'm sure the other people Gracie fought had almost as much of a weight advantage, anyway) is kind of silly. That was a whole new kind of MMA, and nobody knew what to expect, least of all the fighters. And BJJ depends a whole lot less on weight and muscle than wrestling does.
Gracie vs Shamrock. Gracie vs Gordeau. Gracie vs Akebono who is 468 lbs. There are others so take your pick.
Poopington
Dec 4 2008, 03:23 PM
Does it matter? I'd have said the same thing with any name.
YoungWhipperSnapper
Dec 5 2008, 01:57 AM
QUOTE(Poopington @ Dec 4 2008, 03:23 PM)

Does it matter? I'd have said the same thing with any name.
Does it even matter? People are making out Couture to be a wrestling God when he's not. Brock is supposed to win because he's a big mother fucker but in reality he can wrestle with the best of them. Brock does not suck as much people make it out to be. Couture is not that good as people make him out to be. Just deal with it.
SATANIKNUKLEARDESTRUKTORKOMMANDO
Dec 5 2008, 02:45 AM
lesnar rules at everything except football
Poopington
Dec 5 2008, 01:18 PM
QUOTE(YoungWhipperSnapper @ Dec 4 2008, 10:57 PM)

Does it even matter? People are making out Couture to be a wrestling God when he's not. Brock is supposed to win because he's a big mother fucker but in reality he can wrestle with the best of them. Brock does not suck as much people make it out to be. Couture is not that good as people make him out to be. Just deal with it.
Uhh, I "dealt with it" when I saw it happen. Couture's definitely not the best wrestler out there, his strength is in using his wrestling with other techniques (clinch and GNP, mostly, but he's also got pretty good standup). Lesnar has a good (amateur) record, but the only decent wrestling we've seen him do was in that last fight. I'm not saying Lesnar sucks at all. And I'm not saying Couture's the bee's knees.
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