It has come to my attention, this year more so than others, that a playoff in college football is being demanded by the millions of college football fans, but I think we should all actually look at the effects of it before deciding if it's really that good of an idea.

The BCS as it is, pretty much does get the #1 and #2 team right every year. There are some debates between 3 and 2, but 1 is just about always right. But that's not my main argument, hell I think the top 2 debate is always one of the exciting parts of college as it is...but anyways...

First of all, all those great non conference games would be taken away. Teams right now mainly play a season to get into a bowl game. If they were trying to play to get into a 4 or 6 team playoff, you think Ohio State would schedule #2 Texas, you think Michigan would play Notre Dame? Or USC schedule Notre Dame? Or would Arkansas want to play USC? Teams would just slowly water down their schedules untill the only exciting games would be intra conference play.

Also, eventually all those exciting games at the end of the year would be replaced by the power houses just playing lower conference teams. Why in the world would Ohio State play Michigan at the end of the year, ruining one of their chances to get into this said "playoff system." No team could afford a loss that late in the year...

ANd who knows, teams might even start benching their star athletes like NFL teams do at the end of the year, just because it doesn't matter, and they are already in.

I just think it would take away from how exciting the NCAA season is at the moment.

I think college is great as it is, the controversy just adds to how great and exciting it is.

The two weeks of Bowl games is some of the best TV of the year. So many teams just getting to play other teams from other conferences.

That's how I feel though.

What about 2000, 2001, and 2003? Not to mention all the teams that have been screwed out of even getting BCS games in the past (Auburn in 2004, Kansas State in 1998).

You made a lot of good points though, I just hate how when you lose 1 game you have a 50/50 chance of making the national championship game and with two loses you can forget it. Not to mention all the mid-majors who get perfect seasons and aren't even included in the BCS till the end of the year.

College football is already pretty lame as it is, the BCS makes it worse. The playoffs (or BCS rather) is the only time I watch it because it's the only thing on Saturdays and Sportscenter EVERY GODDAMNED DAY.

Oregon getting screwed out of the title game in 2001 and Auburn getting screwed in 2004 is proof that it doesn't work.

Spoken like a true Ohio State fan

The colleges don't care about it "working." They only care about money. The BCS gives out the more money to more teams.

Not like the money goes to anything that will help the program get better in years to come...

Yea, I know they got screwed, but the computers at that time didn't take into effect time of loss during the season, and Nebraska had lost their last game but still got in I think. THey've modified the computers since then.

I"m just saying I like the bowl games as they are.


Yea because if you knew anything about football, you'd realize Ohio State is hardly ever 1 and 2, they normally buckle under one game keeping them at around 5-8 in rank at the end of the year, so if anything I'd be pro playoff system if my reasons were to back up Ohio State.

And about money, I"m sure teams would still get their money, the BCS would still be present in the sytem.

I'm sure if they implemented a playoff system, the NCAA itself would schedule the games for most of the competitive conferences just to keep the entertainment value high.

The reason the BCS sucks is because a team like Hofstra or Ball State would have to go undefeated just to get into a shitty bowl game, and even then it isn't a guarantee. Meanwhile, a team like USC can lose twice to two unranked teams and still be in the top ten. Something isn't right there.

Exactly. A playoff system gives us a chance to see something like what George Mason did during March Madness. You get to see the little schools take on the big boys and see if a big upset happens. Makes things more interesting and also eventually would even out the playing field for said smaller schools if they could get some TV time.

If there was a playoff system, there wouldn't even be enough teams for any of the small schools to get in. The top 4 or 6 still would be bigger school teams. You think Ball St will ever make it to the top 6.

And the reason shit teams like George Mason get the chance to win some tournament games because there are over 50 teams in the NCAA basketball tournament, they would never have a tourney over 6 in football...the season as it is, is already long enough for student athletes....

At the end of the day, these kids are still students. You're either going to be putting a playoff smack dab in the middle of semester finals, which the NCAA will never allow, or you're pushing the National Championship game all the way to Super Bowl weekend, and you'd be hard struck to find a school willing to stretch a sports season that long. The money will always be there, whether its in a "bowl game" or a "playoff." People are still going to watch post-season college ball, without a doubt. As fans, a lot of us would love to see a system similar to college basketball. But basketball has the luxury of placing their post-season in the middle of the semester, when travel and practice times aren't an issue.

Exactly, I totally agree. You guys say they will make a ton of money, they already do. Plus with football, you don't get the luxury of playing with one or two days rest, you need a fucking week. It's fine as it is, there will be just as much controversy with a playoff system as there is now. If it's the top 8 or 16 teams, then people will start bitching about how team number 17 didn't get in over team number 15 or 16.

It's fine as it is.

Concurd

Division I-AA already does a fucking 16 team playoff and it works BRILLIANTLY. Its merely just a bunch of bullshit on everyones end that a playoff system isnt implemented yet. It could be done and work fine w/o any real issues.

It hopefully will be realized in a few years time as this BCS shit is a joke. Computers cant pick the best teams, its obvious since the thing came into play. If they are gonna run it the current way just run the two human polls and fuck this BCS bullshit. If you can look at this setup since it has come into play and say it is working fine you are a douche. It's a joke and needs fixing ASAP.

Dude, what was the problem this year??? The BCS didn't alter the outcome, Florida was still ahead in the other two polls (maybe they tied in one, but still FLorida broke it by winning the other poll)

A 16 team playoff would also extend the season by 4 weeks, you can't honestly expect these athletes to play through December, that's when classes are most intense. And if you start in January, that extends the season into the February...these are fucking students. Not pros that are there for entertainment. You're also adding 4 extra games that could injure the students.

A 16 game football season is re-fucking diculous.

But hey, I'm a douche, what do I know?

Once again, Division I-AA does it and it works perfectly.

Most of the years the BCS gets the #1 team right...this year there's no question Ohio State is #1, they had a tough schedule and went undefeated. #2 is ALWAYS a gray area, though. I haven't seen many years where there wasn't some kind of controversy over the #2 spot.

Also, students go into football knowing that there's a chance they'll get injured, knowing it'll give them less time to do homework, and knowing it'll take a toll on them physically. Adding more games would make that burden more harsh, sure, but they're free to not play football if they don't like it.

You dont need a 16 week season first off. You can get rid of one or two of the early games, as they are fucking POINTLESS for 98 percent of the schools. You also can drop the Conference championship games as they would be just as pointless in playoff system.

It could be worked out schedule wise and be no longer than their currente schedule, if any a week at most. Div I-AA has done it and dont is GREAT for a long time.

And what do you mean HOW did the BCS fuck up this year..? It WAS POINTLESS, IT ENDED IN A FUCKING TIE BETWEEN TWO TEAMS! Thus came down to the human element. They may as well just not use the BCS at all and use the human element to pick liek they used to because the BCS is re god damndiculous.

Also, this whole student athlete thing is a joke.. alot of the players are fuckin legit retards and still pass with flying colors. That argument for not having a playoffs cuz of classes shouldnt even be considered in my book. But it is the only real issue to be honest. Its the only issue for not having a playoff system.

I just am sick of the BCS as you can see. I dont know how someone could look at it and say its working perfect, right, or even good. Even the coachs say it doesnt work very well and ALOT of them want the change but the College Presidents won't allow it due to finals.

I dont see a change though so getting pissed about it is pretty worthless. It still angers me when I think about it though.

I don't know, I mean the BCS rankings are only 1/3 computer. So I don't think it makes that much of a difference, it just gives an unbiased poll. This year there was a tie in the computer polls but if you ask me, those two teams both were very close, and in an unbias poll, I would assume they'd come out the same. But the other two human polls voted Florida over Michigan, so it worked out fine if you ask me.

Last year it worked out fine.

Oklahoma USC I thought was fine the year before that.

LSU Oklahoma was kind of controversial because Oklahoma had lost their BIG 12 CHamp game, but I'd say it was fine because it announced USC as co champs.

OSU Miami was fine...

I mean the last 4 years in my opinion have got it right. Before that the system was new, it's only going to get better.

I mean there is no question that the last 3 or 4 years have been right.

And Dante....

First you say rid of first couple games, that's when college football is at its best. First, small division schools get to test their strength and play big conference schools, so that'd be pretty retarded to eliminate seeing as most people here are bitching that a small undefeated school could never be in the national championship. So why eliminate games that make it fun for small schools?

And then if you eliminate another game, there goes another great part of college football. No more scheduling tough out of conference teams....

Bye bye Texas OSU, bye bye USC Notre Dame, bye bye Michigan Notre Dame.....hell I know OSU have scheduled Miami and USC in the future years, so say bye to those games, which are amazing for the sport.

Eliminate the conference champions?? Never would happen, you need a conference champ. Even if we had a playoff system, they'd still give automatic spots in the playoffs to conference champions because then schools would complain about unequal representation and seeds in the tournament.

And you say the whole student athlete thing is a joke, I mean I agree, but only to a certain extent. A lot of athletes do rely on the oppurtunity for a free education. And only a small percentage of athletes expect to make it to the pros, so a lot of them do expect to get an education despite the popular beleif of "athlete = reatard"

Eh. I don't see what would be so bad about adding a short playoff. Maybe between the winners of the 4 major bowl games.

But the point of the playoffs would be to not have mismatched bowl games...