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Right move by the Packers here. He strings them along year after year, and this year he actually retired. At some point they have to move forward with their franchise.

I agree. He won't be good for long soon anyways.

They owe him one more year. That's it. ALso maybe he retired so he didn't have to deal with the bullshit media asking him non stop what he's going to do. This way he could be free of the media till later in the summer.....otherwise it would have been non stop since they lost.

They gave him his one more year the year they drafted Aaron Rodgers to be the new starter but made him sit on the bench so Favre could play "for one more year" anyway. They gave him his one more year again the year after that. They gave him a third one more year last year. They gave him that year despite the fact that he cried like a little bitch that the Packers wouldn't mortgage their future by trading Rodgers for Randy Moss so Brett Favre could have one more shot at glory.

The Packers don't owe him shit, he owes it to the Packers to stop blocking their first round draft pick from three fucking years ago. It's ridiculous. Aaron Rodgers was drafted to be "the man" and he has 59 regular season pass attempts in his career with not a single start.

Anyway, the Packers offered Favre a job as Rodgers' backup quarterback. That's about the best he should expect from them.

Apparently he was going to unretire in March and the team was ready for him to do it, but he didn't which lead to them adjusting their draft and getting a new QB through it. And now he pulls this shit. I don't blame them for doing this to him. Hes fucking up their plans with childish indecisiveness. Its time for them and him to move on.

I agree with clown and sep. Farve wanted one more year for too long now. He should of retired after his 4-12 season. Now he has a chance to go out after a 13-3 record and another NFC Championship game under his belt. Let Aaron Rodgers get his shot.

I don't even understand why he is doing this. Spend one measly season for some other team for no reason, or stay retired after having gone out on top as the greatest player for a team you spent your whole career with?

It should be obvious what the smart decision is.

I think Favre is the kind of guy that can only play football and doesn't know what else to do with his life. He's not the broadcaster type, and he's not a "student of the game" enough to be a coach. He's never had a career outside of football, and he's in his late 30s. He probably looks in the mirror and says "just what the hell am I supposed to do now?" The solution? Play more football. It's what he knows.

Favre's going to suck if he goes anywhere but Green Bay, mainly because Mike McCarthy changed the entire way Favre played last year and had him under control.

If there's not a stern coach there telling Favre not to fling the ball all over the place then he winds up with 29 INT seasons like he did under Mike Sherman.

edit: spoke too soon

I still have no problem with him coming back, only if he's with Green Bay though.

The Packers are in a weak NFC conference right now. The Giants are falling apart and they won the super bowl. Aside from the cowgirls they should be the favorite to win the NFC>

Their best shot of winning is with Favre. Not Rodgers....Rodgers may be a great talent, but Favre shouldn't have to leave just so they can start a rebuilding process. Rodgers can sit his ass on the bench another year.....plenty of talented college QB's have had to wait behind veterans, that's how the work field goes in any profession.

When the NFC is this weak, it's foolish in my mind to rid Favre after he had such a great year.

I don't care if he retired or whatever. You guys act like he's the first person to retire and comeback. Were you mad when Jordan came back (First time LoL)....because he won 3 more rings.

You say the packers don't owe him shit?

Why in the hell do they owe Rodgers shit? He hasn't done shit on the field....he's lucky to even have 59 passes. Football is about the now, and the packers were the second best team in the NFC...and you wan't to rid of the position that's most crucial to a teams success?

Maybe the packers don't owe him shit....but they certainly owe it to their fans to give it their best shot of winning. And they certainly don't owe Rodgers shit. He's not the first QB to sit behind a veteran.

It just boggles my mind that you would worry about a draft pick rather than the teams success....maybe Rodgers will be the next great QB....who knows. But he can sit his ass on the bench and wait, and if he really has a problem there are plenty of teams without a good QB so he can go somewhere else.

No, I don't think the Packers owe Favre shit. I think they've paid him back quite amply for all he's done for them.

They don't owe Rodgers anything, either. They owe it to themselves to move forward. Favre is not their future, Aaron Rodgers is. He hasn't done shit on the field? How about an 18-for-26, 201 yd, 1 TD, 0 INT with 7.7 yards per attempt and a 104.8 QB rating? How about tacking 30 rushing yards onto that line as well? Because that's the performance he gave in the only game he had more than a handful of passing attempts in. Are you saying you don't recall that game? Because it was against the Dallas Cowboys, who aren't exactly a cupcake football team.

Do I think the Packers should rid themselves of the position most valuable to a team's success? No, I think they should allow that position to evolve. Brett Favre is not the future of the Packer organization. What sounds like a better plan to you - another unsuccessful run at the Super Bowl with no contingency plan, or a season that could potentially culminate in the same thing followed by several more seasons where you make runs? I'll take the latter.

No, Aaron Rodgers is not the first QB to sit behind a veteran. That's not the point. The point is that he is the team's future, while Favre has at most one more good year left in him.

I'm not worried about a draft pick over a team's success. I think a team would have more long-term success by developing the draft pick. Believe it or not, football is not about the now and ONLY the now. If you want to make one run at the Super Bowl it is...if you want to try to establish yourself as a dynasty, it's about what's best for your future. That's not Bret Favre.

There's only so much you can learn about the NFL by playing in training camp and the preseason, and I think Aaron Rodgers has probably learned all he can from riding the bench with plans to be the future starter. And it's a well-known fact that Brett Favre is certainly not teaching him anything. To have consistent success, you need an eye to the future.

If you'll recall, in 2005 the Pittsburgh Steelers had a very established veteran returning to their roster by the name of Jerome Bettis. And yet they let another back by the name of Willie Parker start for them. They did pretty well that year...not the best record in the regular season, but they won a Super Bowl. And they continued to do well at the RB position for years after that as well. Know why? Because they realized that Jerome Bettis was their past, not their future.

In 1997, the Indianapolis Colts had an established veteran returning at the QB position by the name of Jim Harbaugh. During his tenure with Indianapolis, he'd led the team to the AFC Championship (and inches away from the Super Bowl), won the passing title, and won the NFL Player of the Year. Know what they did with him? They traded him so that a kid named Peyton Manning could start. Why? Because Jim Harbaugh was their past, not their future. That worked out pretty well for them.

These stories aren't the exception in football, but the rule. If you don't have an eye to the future, you'll never be a dynasty in the NFL. I'm pretty sure every team wants to win more than one Super Bowl.

I agree Clown that Rodgers is the future....but I don't see it being very smart to not want Favre back when they were the second best team in the NFC. Their defense is very young and exceptional. They finally have a solid RB....they might even be the BEST team in the NFC this year.

To say they will have another NFC championship failure is BS...they can win it in my opinion. ANd you're listing the stats of one game by Rodgers...you don't know what the kid is going to do at all.

I was impressed by him too. ANd I will say Favre isn't handling the situation very well. I have issues with the way he's handling it, because he hasn't even issued for reinstatement. I think he wants the packers to WANT him back which I don't see happening...so hopefully he just stays retired.

But I was just saying if I were the packers I'd have no problem with him coming back.

He needs to stay retired. He's causing way too much drama.

Though I guess it's better than ESPN jerking off to Terrell Owens and the Cowboys all the time.

FUCK Brett Favre, I'm sick of fucking hearing about him. If he ever by some cruel twist of fate goes to the Vikings, I will burn down the god damn Metrodome.

I'd let any team have farve for an 09 first round pick. In division teams would have to give a 1st and 3rd round pick.

Which is a coincidence since Favre himself said he wants the Metrodome destroyed.

best headline i have ever read on espnews:

breaking news: packers offer favre $20 million to stay retired

or maybe:

breaking news: favre charters plane for green bay

Favre got reinstated and now the Packers are saying they'll let him compete for the starting job.

Poor Aaron Rodgers. He's gotta be so pissed off.

I'm pretty sure it won't be a real competition.

I still fail to see how this is "Poor Aaron Rodgers" time.

Shouldn't it be, "lets have the best squad on the field" time?

Listen, I agree with you guys in one point. Favre shouldn't be dilly dallying around and should have made up his mind. It's not even this year that got me mad, it's the last 3 years of the dilly dallying around.

But come on guys, football is about winning, winning in this immediate year. It's not about future careers. It's not about giving chances to young possible stars.

I think Favre not making up his mind is what makes people against him coming back and people wanting Rodgers. But if you think of this logically it's ludicrous for Green Bay to not want that man back. The man was a few points short of a 100 passer rating. Threw for 28 TD's.

All they need is a consistent player at the QB position and the Green Bay Packers have a VERY GOOD shot at winning the NFC. Giants aren't the same team without Shockey and Strahan. Cowgirls are good, but that's just one team.

You send Brett Favre to the Vikings, that moves the packers from the 2nd, arguable the 1st best team in the NFC, to not even in the top 5 in the NFC. That also puts the Vikings, in their division, ahead of the Pack. Minnesota is one good QB away from being amazing.

Football is about winning....when did people start worrying about young stars who haven't proved anything on the field? I'm pissed at Favre as well for his stupid decision making and slow decision making, but lets look at this objectively without getting mad at him, the Packers best shot is with Favre.

Favre is also the all-time leader in interceptions thrown. Just saying. You can't really use "consistent" to describe Brett Favre.

Oh, and last year was his third highest passer rating ever. For his career, he has an 85.7 rating. Think he'll do it again?

Football is about winning, as with any sport. But it's about winning this year AND IN YEARS TO COME. Who do you think has the best shot of making that happen? 38 year old Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers? The only real answer: I don't fucking know, because Aaron Rodgers has only played one game.

When do people start worrying about young stars? When their starters are old. When they're at the point, like Deacon Jones said, that "one hit can ruin your career." Christ, you probably wanted Jamie Martin to start in place of Kurt Warner instead of Marc Bulger when Warner got injured on the Rams. "Why the hell are they putting in Bulger? Martin is a proven mediocre QB! Bulger hasn't proven anything! AHH!" According to your logic, Chad Pennington should never have replaced Vinny Testaverde for the New York Jets. "Testaverde is a pro bowl quarterback! He led his team to the playoffs last year, and twice before that! What has Chad Pennington done on the field?" "Drew Bledsoe is a proven QB! Who the hell is this Romo guy?" "Roethlisberger should sit when Tommy Maddox comes back. This guy led his team to the playoffs twice in three years! Roethlisberger hardly ever even passes." "Kurt Warner is a former Super Bowl MVP! So what if he had two bad games? Eli Manning is unproven!" "

Let me put it to you in terms that fans like you understand: Brett Favre has played in 18 seasons. Only one of them has resulted in a Super Bowl win, and that was a long time ago.

Also, the Packers will be great with or without Favre. Have you seen their defense? Or, for that matter, the rest of their offense?

Except the thing that is wrong with your argument is that I am a better starting QB than Chad Pennington and that Drew Bledsoe rules.

also, Favre is going to Tampa Bay.

Chad Pennington has the highest completion percentage in the history of the NFL among qualifiers and holds the Jets franchise record for highest passer rating in a season. This is despite the fact that he's had three different offenses to work with since joining the league. Whenever he isn't injured, he's actually a pretty good QB. What have you done at the QB position?

Drew Bledsoe sucks balls.

Yea Chad pennington is a sad story, not the greatest arm strength but man is his touch and accuracy beautiful.

His throws must be so easy to catch as a WR.

The sad part is his injury problems.....

And Clown I agree you have to look out for your future....but I would give Favre one more year. Everyone says 05/06 were terrible seasons...but before that he was on fire, and 07 he was on fire...

Lets see if 05/06 seasons were just abberations on his career, give the team a shot to win the NFC and their only shot is with Favre.

With Rodgers I'd say they are lucky to win 6 games....and that ain't bad for a new QB, not at all. But they have a shot at a 10 + win season with Favre...

In all honesty I want to see him play for another team, have an amazing career and basically take a dump in the faces of the Packers organization.

For the record I have nothing against Rodgers. I think he's been amazingly understanding throughout these last 3/4 years. The man hasn't said anything negative about the organization or Favre and has embraced the chance to backup one of the greatest QBs ever.

And the int stat does suck on Favres part...but I'm pretty sure he's had way more pass attempts than anyone....double I beleive than any active player. And the longevity of his career it's no surprise he is the INT leader....

He's also the leader in a lot of other QB stats. I want one more year out of him, if he retired fine by me. But he still thinks he can play, and I want him to play well and erase those 05/06 seasons by ending on two strong seasons. How can you call a man inconsistent in his career also just because 2 out of 16 seasons were bad? Not to mention those two years his defense was god awful, and he had no one else around him.

And don't deny that Clown...Brett Favre in 05/06 was ALL ALONE. So for him playing badly it doesn't tarnish his reputation at all in my mind.

The 06 season wansn't even that bad. 05 was bad, but guess who their leading rusher was? Samko Gado with 582 yards....that's terrible and no help to Favre. In the 05/06 season he also threw over 600 passing attempts, the most in his career...that's too much pressure on ANY qb.....

The thing I guess I'm getting at is that you know what you're getting with Favre. He's peaked, he's old, and he's not that good anymore. With Rodgers, you have no idea what you're getting. He might already be as good as an aging Brett Favre. By the end of his career, he might even be more successful than Brett Favre. There's no way of knowing if you don't let him play. If nothing else, let him be the starting QB and then if he doesn't do well put Favre in. But you're not going to get any more out of Favre.

Doesn't matter now. Favre is a Jet.

Now I'm a closet Jet fan, like I was Packers.

Favre, Mangold (O-line from OSU LoL), and Vernon Ghoulston....go jets! Sadly I have to pick another team to be a closet fan because my Bengals aren't looking good.