http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/01/03/...n-the-nfl/#cont

Doesn't belong on the links board, because it's sports related.

That makes my stomach turn just reading it.

I loved it, and I loved some of the comments. The bowl system really is more about the money, and playoff systems make so much more sense when deciding a real champion.

That made me laugh actually.

Like the NFL would ever actually go to a bowl system...

The point was to show how foolish the NCAA system is.

No matter what they do, they will not be able to please everyone. You cannot have one champion with a 12-13 game season and over a 100 teams.

Indeed. I think the idea of a national champion in the NCAA is laughable in itself, but the current system doesn't help things.

I haven't read the article because I don't really feel like it, but if someone said to me, "Screw the playoffs let's see the match of the best two records....the Cowboys vs the Pats" I'd rather see that outcome than any other team in the superbowl.

But I still enjoy the playoffs, that's what makes it fun. ANy team can have a better win streak over a few games, even if they aren't as good as some of the other teams. But in my mind the Pats and the Cowgirls should be playing each other (If we are doing NFC vs AFC).

It's not like playoffs determine who the best is.

Except it would be Colts vs Pats. Every year. Pretty much without exception. You're telling me you wouldn't ever get sick of that matchup?

I'm already sick of it being the game of the season and the game of the playoffs AFC champs. That's why I like a playoff system in football, keeps the champions on their toes. But in college, rarely does the same team make it back for more than 2 years in a row.

If ESPN had it their way, we'd see Notre Dame vs. USC in the national championship every year regardless of record.

Yea no shit. That'd be their lineup. I'm so mad that aside from Notre Dame, USC gets the media's approval.....I don't understand why everyone hates the Buckeyes....I think it's because of how much Ohio loves them.

Everyone's on USC's nuts because of hangover from the Matt Leinart/Reggie Bush team. It's just like everyone loves the Longhorns because of Vince Young. Blue chip prospects excite everyone, more so on offense than defense. ESPN covers teams with athletes that will produce not only at the NCAA level, but also in the NFL...they have a vested interest in that, as it will allow them to continue coverage for longer stretches of time.

A lot of people in the media get excited for players like Laurinitas, Hawk, etc al, but the highlight reels are less exciting, so less time is spent talking about them. The last exciting offense OSU had was Troy Smith and Ted Ginn, and everyone expected Smith to be a backup in the NFL. Ginn was a blue-chipper that has yet to produce. I'll bet anything that if Ginn absolutely blows up in the NFL any time soon, OSU will suddenly get all kinds of media coverage.

why does da bears defend the bcs in every topic

Because OSU would choke in the first round of every playoff.

Psh, bring on a playoff system. I'm confident in the Buckeye's in any game. That doesn't mean I expect them to win every game, but going into a game I feel they have the talent and coaching staff to deal with any team in the nation. That doesn't mean they will always execute, but I know they can beat anyone in the nation.

And why am I defending the BCS here? the topic was made what if the BCS ran the NFL.....it'd be either NE vs colts or NE vs Cowboys....either way that's what I want to see in the Super bowl. I could care less about any other team, I am a person who likes to see the two best rated teams play in the finals.

And the system you defend does such a great job of predicting the best teams.

As far as I'm concerned they have been right since 2002. So that's 6 years straight.

"As far as I'm concerned"

Name a year where they have messed up?

By what metric? You can't just say "Oh, they picked these two teams, and they're the best teams because the BCS picked them, so they're clearly right." I could pick two teams I think are the best. I can't be wrong, because it's all a matter of opinion, which is exactly what the BCS ranking boil down to.

Auburn got fucked. You can't deny that. And a situation in which one team didn't get fucked was impossible that year because of the way the BCS is structured. Reasons like that are why playoffs are a better system.

I'm not saying that the BCS's decisions are why they are clearly right. I'm just saying I beleive they have made the correct decisions.

I agree with the Auburn screwing when they, Oklahoma, and USC went undefeated. But I don't htink a playoff system is needed. IN situations like that, which I don't see happening very often, make a +1. They should have had USC and Auburn face each other.

But how would they know that Oklahoma wouldn't have beaten Auburn? Who's to say it shouldn't have been USC or Oklahoma vs Auburn and the winner of THAT got to play who was left out?

How does a playoff system solve this problem?

the +1 is basically a playoff. I can say the same thing, let's say this year VA Tech lost to WVU in the first round, what's to say VA TECH wouldn't have beaten someone else in another bracket.

Atleast the plus one has the winner of their respective bowl games face each other.

That's true, but the playoffs aren't the CHAMPIONSHIP game.

Let's have a hypothetical here. Let's say that some year in the future, the Patriots aren't the only undefeated team. We'll say that the Patriots, Cowboys, and Packers ALL went undefeated. On top of that, we'll say that the Colts, Steelers and Saints only lost one game. The Colts lost vs New England, the Steelers lost vs Dallas, and the Saints lost vs a team that didn't go undefeated, say the Bears or something.

How well do you think it would go over if the NFL just said "Fuck the playoffs. This year, the Super Bowl is Patriots vs Cowboys. This is the clear choice. We know that the Packers also went undefeated, but their schedule just wasn't as strong. Sure, they play in the NFC North vs the mighty Vikings and Bears, against the stingy Chicago defense and superstar running back Adrian Peterson, but two of their games this year were against the lowly Detroit Lions. Sorry, but that's just not that impressive. As for the one loss teams, well, they should have tried harder. We realize that it's tough to go a full season without a single loss, but three other teams did it. A case could certainly be made for Pittsburgh or Indianapolis, as both teams lost to undefeated teams. As a result, we're giving them a consolation game vs one another that we'll call the Good Bowl. As for New Orleans, they're out of luck, as they lost to the lowly 14-win Chicago Bears." You wouldn't be a little upset that no teams even got to TRY to prove that they're better than the undefeateds? That they may have just had an off week on the week they lost?

THIS IS FUCKING STUPID

YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE OVERALL CHAMPION IN D-I COLLEGE FOOTBALL

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Really? It seems to work in DI-AA. Fairly well, in fact.

I agree with your points. And I like the playoffs in the NFL. I love hte playoffs in every sports that uses a playoff system.

I'm just saying I like the idea of the top two in college. I like that huge media spotlight atmosphere that's put into one game. The honor and tradition of being selected to the national championship game is sweet. I just feel a playoff system in college ball would detract from the championship game. ALso I Like the out of conference matchups in moderation. If all of a sudden we have a 16 team or however many team playoff system the hype of out of conference scheduling will be lost.

And grimes you're right too.



I don't know why people keep bringing up D1-AA. I never said it wasn't working in that division. Listen, I like playoffs, it's a great idea. I'm okay with every sport that has a playoff system. You'd be an idiot if you thought a playoff system isn't intelligent.

I just am saying I like how college football is structured right now. Every weekend is so exciting. Maybe it's just different for me because I go to Ohio State and participating in the weekly traditions means a lot to me. And I'm not saying all the tradition will be lost from a playoff system, but the regular season would be watered down a bit, there's no denying that.

If colleg football ever goes to a playoff system you think I'm going to be mad and stop watching the game? Hell no, I'll still be happy as fuck. In all honesty I'm happy with whatever system they have.

There are less schools in DI-AA. It's easier to have a national champion in a smaller division.

I agree with what Grimes said...it's impossible to truly have a single national champion in I-A football. But if they insist on trying, I'd prefer a playoff system.

Not true. I believe there are 122 in DI-A and 147 in DI-AA.

The fact is people don't care enough about AA. How many of you watch it and care who the hell wins? Just because they do it their way doesn't mean it will work for a division that surpasses professional sports in terms of fan passion. The playoff system is a better alternative to the way things are now, but it's still not possible to determine a single national champion like this.

It works in pro sports because there are more games and less teams.

March Madness works because they play a lot more games, and have such a large tournament.

Football is different. This media-created quest for one #1 team is stupid. 10-20 years ago (despite the lousy coaching situation) a trip to the Rose Bowl was a great success and was all we needed. Now if we fall short in the fucking National Title game, the whole year was a waste. That's not the kind of football I want and it's not what we need. All this comes down to is bragging rights.