Usurper
Dec 15 2007, 12:30 AM
See this movie. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. Great for a date.
Auron
Dec 15 2007, 02:11 AM
Great suspense, Smith is amazing. That's it, really.
evildoughnuts
Dec 15 2007, 02:48 AM
Just got back from seeing it. Really damn good.
kyle
Dec 15 2007, 10:37 AM
I thought it slowed down a bit near the end, but it exceeded my expectations. Really good movie.
Ænima
Dec 15 2007, 11:43 AM
Will Smith kind of gets on my nerves. But it looks like a pretty good movie.
Usurper
Dec 15 2007, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(kyle @ Dec 15 2007, 08:37 AM)

I thought it slowed down a bit near the end, but it exceeded my expectations. Really good movie.
Yeah, I think it got a little bit lame towards the end, but the first 2/3 of the movie were as good as it gets. It had more suspense than Room 1408.
My favorite part was:
SPOILERSWhen he falls in his own trap (Or the mutant's trap--it's debatable) and doesn't wake up until sunset.
Feern
Dec 15 2007, 05:50 PM
I need to see this.
Master Bob
Dec 16 2007, 12:33 AM
QUOTE(Usurper @ Dec 15 2007, 02:15 PM)

My favorite part was: SPOILERS
When he falls in his own trap (Or the mutant's trap--it's debatable) and doesn't wake up until sunset.
It was totally that monster's trap, specifically the one who purposefully stepped into the light. His trap always used a black tarp and some of his blood. The monster's trap used a manequin of which they observed him talking to, someone who he was close to.
It was good. I would watch it again (not pay to).
Zombie N-Word
Dec 16 2007, 01:50 AM
Loved it.
Knew he was going to wind up killing his dog but it still really got to me when it happened.
I'm a little torn on his quest to cure the virus though. I figure it was the only thing really keeping him going, but lets say he had cured it and made it airborne, then what? Could world ever go back to being a somewhat normal place? I'd imagine the infected would be severly fucked up afterwards.
Master Bob
Dec 16 2007, 03:15 AM
QUOTE(Zombie N-Word @ Dec 16 2007, 01:50 AM)

I'm a little torn on his quest to cure the virus though. I figure it was the only thing really keeping him going, but lets say he had cured it and made it airborne, then what? Could world ever go back to being a somewhat normal place? I'd imagine the infected would be severly fucked up afterwards.
If they could be turned into humans again with their memories intact.; eventually the infected would die. And I was thinking a similar thing.
Usurper
Dec 16 2007, 10:43 PM
QUOTE(Master Bob @ Dec 15 2007, 10:33 PM)

It was totally that monster's trap, specifically the one who purposefully stepped into the light. His trap always used a black tarp and some of his blood. The monster's trap used a manequin of which they observed him talking to, someone who he was close to.
You're probably right. For a minute there, i just kind of attributed the incident to his insanity. It was pretty ironic, too, considering that he stated earlier their lack of human characteristics.
Usurper
Dec 16 2007, 10:53 PM
QUOTE(Zombie N-Word @ Dec 15 2007, 11:50 PM)

I'm a little torn on his quest to cure the virus though. I figure it was the only thing really keeping him going, but lets say he had cured it and made it airborne, then what? Could world ever go back to being a somewhat normal place? I'd imagine the infected would be severly fucked up afterwards.
If I recall correctly, 90% of people died, and very few people were immune. Most of the immune people were killed, so there are only a few million people left, most of them probably in the developed world. The point of the cure was to make sure those few people that were left could live a somewhat normal life.
Master Bob
Dec 17 2007, 03:00 AM
QUOTE(Usurper @ Dec 16 2007, 10:43 PM)

It was pretty ironic, too, considering that he stated earlier their lack of human characteristics.
Either they always had that kind of inteligence or they evolved.
QUOTE(Usurper @ Dec 16 2007, 10:53 PM)

If I recall correctly, 90% of people died, and very few people were immune. Most of the immune people were killed, so there are only a few million people left, most of them probably in the developed world. The point of the cure was to make sure those few people that were left could live a somewhat normal life.
It was somehting like ~500 million monsters and 12 million immune. All they would need to do is make the cure airbone (which may not work as they needed to make them cold) and then release them.
Master Bob
Dec 17 2007, 07:15 PM
Alright so my sister brought up a good point I think.
So Robert Nevile decides to stay on the island he is on while his family leaves because they are completely isolating the island (ie no way in or out). So how did Anna and Ethan get on and leave the island?
Zombie N-Word
Dec 17 2007, 08:27 PM
QUOTE(Master Bob @ Dec 17 2007, 07:15 PM)

Alright so my sister brought up a good point I think.
So Robert Nevile decides to stay on the island he is on while his family leaves because they are completely isolating the island (ie no way in or out). So how did Anna and Ethan get on and leave the island?
A boat of some kind?
Master Bob
Dec 17 2007, 09:08 PM
That would be the only way it seems. all the boats would have been on that side as well.
Gir
Dec 20 2007, 03:33 AM
Very solid movie, even though the book's ending was much cooler.
I almost cried when he had to kill Sam. >_>
Zombie N-Word
Dec 20 2007, 05:07 AM
QUOTE(Gir @ Dec 20 2007, 03:33 AM)

Very solid movie, even though the book's ending was much cooler.
I almost cried when he had to kill Sam. >_>
I tried not to get choked up because I knew it was coming (no one told me, I just had that feeling early on)
The Batman
Dec 21 2007, 12:46 AM
Everything up until the dog dying was great.
The ending, however, completely ruined it. I haven't even read the book, but I know what happens, and I was so dissappointed not to get the book's ending.
Usurper
Dec 21 2007, 01:28 AM
How does the book end? :-o
Zombie N-Word
Dec 21 2007, 01:47 AM
The books ending doesn't really work because the movie and book had semi-different plots. Hell, in the book he's not really trying to cure anything, he just goes Buffy on the vamps while they're asleep:
QUOTE
As the story progresses, it is revealed that some infected people have discovered a means to hold the disease at bay. However, the "still living" people appear no different from the true vampire during the day while both are immobilized in sleep. Thus, along with the vampires, Neville kills the still living people. He becomes a source of terror to the still living, since he can go around in daylight (which they can only do for a short length of time) and kill them while they sleep.
The still living send a girl named Ruth to spy on Neville, and they cleverly replicate Neville's relationship to the dog. Ruth pretends to be terrified of Neville at first sight, and rather than spend weeks trying to win her over, he attacks her and drags her back to his house. Though Neville is suspicious of her true nature and much of their interaction focuses on Neville's internal struggle between his deep seated paranoia and his hope, it is clear by his seizure of Ruth that the scales have tipped in favor of the irrational. Eventually Neville performs a blood test on her, revealing her true nature to him before she knocks him out. Ruth leaves a note telling him about the group of people like her, explaining that she was sent to spy and how monstrous he appears to them. Months later, the still living people attack, shooting Neville but taking him alive so that he can be executed in front of everyone in the new society.
Before he can be executed, Ruth provides him with an envelope of pills. Neville takes the pills so he will feel no pain when the still living execute him. He finally realizes why the new society of the living infected regards him as a monster: just as vampires were regarded as legendary monsters that preyed on the vulnerable humans in their beds, Neville has become a mythical figure that kills both vampires and the infected living while they are sleeping. He becomes a legend as the vampires once were, hence the title.
The film's ending seemed to be sort of based on the ending of The Omega Man
The Batman
Dec 21 2007, 02:06 AM
I just thought that the book had a great twist. The new society of vampires is the majority, and he is now to them what we consider vampires. A legend. It's awesome, and until you hear it the title simply doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Then the movie had to go fuck it up by saying that his legend is the cure for the disease. What a load of BS
Usurper
Dec 21 2007, 01:58 PM
God forbid a movie ever be different from the book, right?
The Batman
Dec 21 2007, 04:12 PM
It's not that, I really don't think I would have liked the ending regardless if I had had the book spoiled for me or not. I really just didn't like it that much. It felt too...I don't even know how to explain it. I just really wish they hadn't ever introduced Anna and her son.
Keats
Dec 22 2007, 02:42 AM
Movie took a nosedive once Anna and Ethan showed up. Bad ending, and after my friend who read the book explained that version to me, I was disappointed I didn't get it.
Vampires looked terrible, and I felt like they glossed over a lot of stuff.
Smith was good as always, I kinda want to see him take a smaller dramatic role in some ensemble cast.
Sam the dog was perhaps the best dog ever featured in a movie.
jemer
Dec 22 2007, 04:53 AM
This movie was like the poor man's Cast Away/28 Days Later. Still not that bad of a show, though. Could have been at least an hour longer, and there were so many loose ends that could have filled those 60+ minutes. Progression of the anatomy zombie/vampire/whatevers (how they began coming into the sunlight), the trip to the refuge, a better entrance for anna and ethan, etc.
Smith's acting wasn't that great, i didn't think. I've always considered him underrated, but people were calling this movie oscar-worthy...wtf?
I could go on for hours, but i won't. Excellent premise, horrible execution. 7.5/10 imo. the book seems like it would have been much better, but i don't think it would have translated into a better movie than the product that was.
Master Bob
Dec 22 2007, 04:56 AM
Who is the book by?
and they weren't vampires. Though I guess they were similar to them now that you mention it.
Zombie N-Word
Dec 22 2007, 09:51 AM
QUOTE(Master Bob @ Dec 22 2007, 04:56 AM)

Who is the book by?
and they weren't vampires. Though I guess they were similar to them now that you mention it.
Richard Mattheson.
And yeah, they weren't actually vampires. In the book they're referred to as Vampires, and have Vampire weaknesses (crosses, garlic, ect.) but it's all explained as being solely psychological.
YoungWhipperSnapper
Dec 24 2007, 02:50 PM
I thought it was decent. Really felt a lot like 28 Weeks Later like someone else said.
They did a really, really crappy job on the zombies. They all looked the same and were not scary at all. I was expecting to be blown away but it was just a decent popcorn movie.
Keats
Dec 25 2007, 06:36 PM
QUOTE(Master Bob @ Dec 22 2007, 03:56 AM)

Who is the book by?
and they weren't vampires. Though I guess they were similar to them now that you mention it.
Which really tells you a lot about the movie if they can't even make that clear. Vampires, not zombies. Calling them "darkseekers" is about as close as the movie gets.
QUOTE(Zombie N-Word @ Dec 22 2007, 08:51 AM)

Richard Mattheson.
And yeah, they weren't actually vampires. In the book they're referred to as Vampires, and have Vampire weaknesses (crosses, garlic, ect.) but it's all explained as being solely psychological.
Well, yeah they are. Neville calls the bacillus
vampirus, and they have an allergic reaction to garlic, so that much isn't psychological. They definitely aren't traditional vampires (no transformation, not sleeping in coffins, etc), but they're blood drinkers.
Distort My Image
Dec 26 2007, 04:35 PM
Yea, they feed on blood and blood alone, making them Vampires in my book. Only time I was ever really scared by them was when Smith shined his light on a pack of them just standing, lifeless, clustered in a circle in that building. Just...creepy.
Knowing that in the book they form a kind of society and can communicate with each other (instead of just scream and roar) just makes the movie piss me off more because I hated how it seemed as if they were becoming semi-intelligent in the movie (Observation, setting traps, following/tracking Smith, eliminating weaknesses like UV lights, finding ways around obstacles, etc) but were still just a bunch of dirty monsters who very obviously had no hope of returning to humanity even if a cure was found.
What the hell is a cure supposed to do anyways? Does that one that he captured have special blood? Or is the cure in all the infecteds' blood? How the hell did he find that out? That's the main reason I didn't really enjoy the movie, it just left too many big questions like that at the end. I did enjoy Smith's performance though. And the dog.
Master Bob
Dec 26 2007, 04:47 PM
QUOTE(Distort My Image @ Dec 26 2007, 04:35 PM)

What the hell is a cure supposed to do anyways? Does that one that he captured have special blood? Or is the cure in all the infecteds' blood? How the hell did he find that out? That's the main reason I didn't really enjoy the movie, it just left too many big questions like that at the end. I did enjoy Smith's performance though. And the dog.
A cure should stop the virus, turning them back to humans. Though it was not answered if they would revert to their previous human state or be like infants.
The cure is not in all the infecteds' blood. The one he captured did not originally have special blood. Robert Nevile knew he was immune to the virus; thus he used his own blood to develop a cure. So he got a bunch of rats infected and then used his own blood to make different possible cures (ie G series strain 6). The letter probably was which iteration he was on, ie G meaning sixth anti-virus possibility, and the strain would be a slight modification to the G series, ie anything from methods of application to a slightly different virus. So what he did was tested the rats with his possible cure. Some of the rats remained infected, some died, and maybe one or two were cured using G Series Strain 6. So he got a human and tested it with G Series Strain 6 and at first it died. Then he resurected it, and tried again except this time he put the infected's body on ice. So when the infected storm his home and they rush behind the plexiglass, they notice that the infected has been cured. So Robert then takes some of the infected's blood in the vial and gives it to Anna. The cure is within that blood as it once was infected and now is not.
Joff
Jan 21 2008, 12:19 AM
Saw this last night... It was a fun movie, but I enjoyed the book more.
Tiz
Jan 21 2008, 08:12 PM
QUOTE(Keats @ Dec 22 2007, 02:42 AM)

Sam the dog was perhaps the best dog ever featured in a movie.
i just wanted to say best dog ever featured in a movie is totally flike from
Umberto D
that movie breaks my heart
Zebrahead
Jan 27 2008, 12:33 AM
QUOTE(Keats @ Dec 21 2007, 11:42 PM)

Movie took a nosedive once Anna and Ethan showed up. Bad ending, and after my friend who read the book explained that version to me, I was disappointed I didn't get it.
Vampires looked terrible, and I felt like they glossed over a lot of stuff.
QUOTE(jemer @ Dec 22 2007, 01:53 AM)

This movie was like the poor man's Cast Away/28 Days Later. Still not that bad of a show, though. Could have been at least an hour longer, and there were so many loose ends that could have filled those 60+ minutes.
More or less how I felt. 28 Days Later did the feel of suspense and the transitions so much better. This flick just threw in a bunch of stupid jump-out moments and the vampires looked like something out of The Mummy.
A couple scenes did a good job with suspense, Will Smith was good and the first half or so of the movie was far better than the second. But overall I think it buried itself with cliches because it couldn't do a full movie of suspense and creepy atmosphere.
Master Bob
Mar 5 2008, 05:01 PM
ALTERNATE ENDING:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/184699.htmlIt's different. I like them both, but the alternate has more win.
Arej00dazed
Mar 27 2008, 06:54 AM
yeah I liked the alt ending MUCH better than the original...
*SPOILER*
...at least it proves robert wrong about the monsters lost all humanity and gives you a sense of hope.
*SPOILER 2*
someone mentioned how the woman and the kid got on the island. at the end of the alt ending, it shows all of them driving across a bridge, which I assumed was a bridge that was not destroyed. doesnt make sense, but wtf.
Zombie N-Word
Mar 27 2008, 01:18 PM
I think the alternate ending is good, but I can see why they didn't go with it theatrically.
Arej00dazed
Mar 27 2008, 02:12 PM
^^^yeah hollywoods tends to go for the big bang
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