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Brent Black
I was reading some Sports Guy today, and he mentioned something that I found really interestng.

QUOTE(Bill Simmons)
Q: "Friday Night Lights," the show -- your thoughts? I figure it might be up your alley given your love for the "90210," "O.C." and such. I'm hooked and I'm not even into those kind of shows. Guilty pleasure.
--Jon Smith, Seattle


SG: I'm sure you're right. Here's the problem: I bailed after one episode because the ratings were so low that I assumed the show was getting canceled. After the Sports Gal's experiences with "Reunion" and "Love Monkey" last year, I didn't want to get sucked into a show, get attached to the characters, then have it get yanked after seven episodes. So I bailed. Naturally, NBC decided to stick with the show because it built a small but rabid fan base, and now there's no way to catch up on old episodes because it would be too logical for them to either rerun them two at a time on Saturday nights or on the USA Network so latecomers could catch up (or people like me who gave up because they thought they show would get axed). Now I have to wait to spend $30 on the Season 1 DVD to come out next summer, which is ridiculous because I never wanted to stop watching the show in the first place.

The larger issue: TV networks spend so many time/money/energy pushing their new shows (look at the "Day Break" commercials over the past few weeks), lack the patience to stick with those same shows once they're on ... and then they wonder why we aren't watching as much TV anymore. I mean, why would I start watching a serial show like "Kidnapped" or "The Nine" when I know there's a 90 percent chance it's going to be gone within four weeks, or even within a year? Would you buy a book in the store if you could only read one chapter a week and knew there was a chance the last 20 chapters would disintegrate within six weeks if there weren't enough people that bought the book? These stupid TV networks blame DVDs, video games, Internet, iPod downloads and everything else for declining ratings, but the real reason more people aren't watching them is because nobody trusts free networks to keep their shows on the air. At least with HBO, if they're launching a season of "The Wire" or "Rome," I know that I'm getting every episode from that season if I start watching. Like with "Friday Night Lights" -- if that was an HBO show, I never would have stopped watching after one episode. Since it was an NBC show, I bailed. What does that tell you?

I have to say I agree wholeheartedly. I watched the first episodes of the Nine and Smith and thought they were really good, but then didn't hear a peep about either show all week and knew they weren't gonna cut it. I got burned by a show called Push, Nevada a few years back. It was a really good show, was promised at least 6 episodes, then got canned after 4 and the guys making it tried to cram the rest of the story into the last 20 minutes.

What do you guys think?
Trogdor the Burninator
I really don't have an affinity to watch network TV because it's usually all garbage, but Love Monkey was a really good show.
enKrypt
I don't even watch much TV anymore. I leave my TV on all the time and half watch whatever is on. The only shows I actually make sure I watch are House and nip/tuck.
The President
If people complain about joining a show in the middle of a season, that's what DVDs are for.
Brent Black
QUOTE(The President @ Nov 28 2006, 08:31 PM) *

If people complain about joining a show in the middle of a season, that's what DVDs are for.

I think you missed his point. He's not against buying DVDs as a practice. He started watching the show, enjoyed it, but then stopped because of what he thought was its inevidable cancelation. For once a network didn't cancel the show despite its ratings, and now he's stuck trying to catch up with a serial series he enjoyed watching in the first place.

That's the issue he's talking about, not the serialization of the show itself. Fewer people are willing to give a serial show a chance because the networks are getting so trigger happy. For every Lost, there's an Invasion, Nine, Smith, Kidnapped, In Justice, and Heist. You're not getting very good odds trying to make an investment in a serial series.
Kele
Yeah, it's happened to me a couple of times. I started watching Boston Legal during the second season so it wasn't going to be much a problem. I'm watching Studio 60 now and I'm afraid it's going to end up being cancelled... it's getting low ratings and is an expensive show. Oh well.
Lurker
that has been going on since network television was instituted
BEAUTIFUL BEAN FOOTAGE
Hahah Push, Nevada. That was the contest wrapped in a show right? Even the promise of a million bucks couldn't get people to tune in.

Anyways yeah, this problem has been going on for decades. You can't always watch a winner. There is no real solution to this other than changing network heads to ones who let every show air for a full season.
The President
I think producers should start asking for commitments to air the show for x number of weeks before it is taken off. That could help solve that.
Poopington
Honestly, I think I should decide what's on TV, and when.

I'm not sure I understand the guy's point, though. He decided not to watch the show, and then got pissed off because he wanted to watch the show. How about when you want to watch it you watch it?
Brent Black
QUOTE(Man Wit No Nizzle @ Nov 30 2006, 04:26 PM) *

Hahah Push, Nevada. That was the contest wrapped in a show right? Even the promise of a million bucks couldn't get people to tune in.

Anyways yeah, this problem has been going on for decades. You can't always watch a winner. There is no real solution to this other than changing network heads to ones who let every show air for a full season.

Yeah, and it really fucked things up when the show got canceled. Because of the rules of the contest and the possibilities of lawsuits, they had to still honor it and get all the clues out to the public. So the last five minutes of the show were staged to look like the writer's house and he's on some kind of webcam. Acoording to the story, he hacked into ABC's broadcast to tell everyone that the government as shutting down the series because they were getting scared, that it was never a drama in the first place, but rather the retelling of an actual town in Nevada where these events were actually taking place. Then he scribbled a bunch of notes on a piece of paper (the clues that were supposed to be slipped in the remainder of the episodes) and told the viewers to find the truth for themselves. Then a bunch of guys in suits break in, and the feed cuts to color bars. Really fucking lame.

They did put out a book though that told the whole story intended for the series, with some additional content, so at least I got to figure out what the deal was.

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I'm not sure I understand the guy's point, though. He decided not to watch the show, and then got pissed off because he wanted to watch the show. How about when you want to watch it you watch it?

He didn't want to get interested in the characters, the subplots, and what-have-you, just to have the show pulled out from under him with no resolution. The book reference he makes clarifies his point.
Zombie N-Word
Sorry to bump an older topic but I sorta agree with the whole "not getting pulled in just so that the shows taken from me" thing.

I was just about to get into Day Break and it's getting canceled two weeks from now.
Poopington
It still makes no sense to me. Yeah, it sucks when a show you like gets cancelled or taken off the air, but isn't it better that you got to enjoy some of it?
Joseph
QUOTE(Poopington @ Dec 13 2006, 09:22 PM) *

It still makes no sense to me. Yeah, it sucks when a show you like gets cancelled or taken off the air, but isn't it better that you got to enjoy some of it?

That's the thing, part of the enjoyment is getting engrossed enough to actually wonder what they're going to do next time. Think of reading a mystery novel, or watching a mystery show. You're actually getting into picking out the clues, putting together all the pieces, and you're enjoying yourself. Then, right when you're getting to the conclusion, you lose the book and can't find a copy. Or the power cuts on the show, and doesn't come back until it's over, and they're not going to show it again. Wouldn't you be pissed off? It's like having a million dollar check dangled in front of your face and pulled away at the last second every time you try to grab it.

It's one of the reasons I stopped watching TV. I got into a new TV show, and right when I hit that point of getting excited about watching it, something kills it. That's contributed to my slowly growing DVD collection.
Asuka
As long as they don't cut The Office or House, Fox and NBC execs will continue to live
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