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Kele
QUOTE(FuckChrist @ Jul 30 2007, 12:45 AM) *

I dunno. It had it's times. It was pretty decent in the days when you were off living on the streets, giving handjobs to crack dealers.

The chat kids never really contributed anything of entertainment to the site, they mainly just added their "fuck the police" drama and assorted memes they stumbled upon while masturbating on 4chan. SO WACKY.

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lumabean
QUOTE(FuckChrist @ Jul 30 2007, 12:45 AM) *


The chat kids never really contributed anything of entertainment to the site, they mainly just added their "fuck the police" drama and assorted memes they stumbled upon while masturbating on 4chan. SO WACKY.

Honestly, shut the fuck up. I'm so sick and tired of this chat kids categorization. Not one person in the chat even goes to 4chan and the so called drama we stir up is tongue-in-cheek. Don't marginalize a group of people you know nothing about.
Kefka
He's right. Retards like Taped and I go to 4chan, not really the chat kids.
Feern
QUOTE(FuckChrist @ Jul 30 2007, 01:45 AM) *

I dunno. It had it's times. It was pretty decent in the days when you were off living on the streets, giving handjobs to crack dealers.

The chat kids never really contributed anything of entertainment to the site, they mainly just added their "fuck the police" drama and assorted memes they stumbled upon while masturbating on 4chan. SO WACKY.


Oh, I'm sorry everyone isn't up your ass anymore for making some shitty anime-like comics about a fat alcoholic and his whore. Doesn't mean the place has gone to hell. I'm just cooler than you now.

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AlienFromBeyond
Damnit, where's the "We know drama" pic when you need it?
Paraphen
QUOTE(AlienFromBeyond @ Jul 30 2007, 12:24 PM) *

Damnit, where's the "We know drama" pic when you need it?


Shit, it's probably been posted in this thread already
FuckChrist
QUOTE(Feern @ Jul 30 2007, 03:32 AM) *

Oh, I'm sorry everyone isn't up your ass anymore for making some shitty anime-like comics about a fat alcoholic and his whore. Doesn't mean the place has gone to hell. I'm just cooler than you now.

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laugh.gif Yes, we took a dump and you came along and declared yourself king of shit mountain. Good job, brah.

I obviously don't care much about who is popular and whatnot... seeing as I don't really come here regularly. I just wanted to point out the hilarious little ego trip you've been going on, considering your history on the boards consists of nothing more than making a topic every 3 months about how you've been living in your grandma's basement huffing glue and collecting STDs, but are ready to get your life back together. Craving attention and beating off to the occasional "Wow Feernie, you've been through so much... you're so cool."

Your new and sudden sense of self-worth is amusing to me, that's all. laugh.gif

Carry on.
Feern
QUOTE(FuckChrist @ Aug 2 2007, 09:42 PM) *

laugh.gif Yes, we took a dump and you came along and declared yourself king of shit mountain. Good job, brah.

I obviously don't care much about who is popular and whatnot... seeing as I don't really come here regularly. I just wanted to point out the hilarious little ego trip you've been going on, considering your history on the boards consists of nothing more than making a topic every 3 months about how you've been living in your grandma's basement huffing glue and collecting STDs, but are ready to get your life back together. Craving attention and beating off to the occasional "Wow Feernie, you've been through so much... you're so cool."

Your new and sudden sense of self-worth is amusing to me, that's all. laugh.gif

Carry on.


Yeah, I sure wish I was some pussy little gothic artist. I mean, damn, your skin.. it's so milky. I must have it.
Brent Black
Us mods spend all our free time sitting in the Mod Lounge discussing who is going to be the next target. We do this to stir drama and have fun at everyone else's expense. Dante was a martyr, and his ban was impeccably planned out as part of our ongoing mission to keep people hating us so we can make fun of them for being so serious about not taking things so serious.
Poopington
^Was anybody claiming that?

Anyway, I stand by a comment I once made that went a little like "less mods more naked bods."
lob
QUOTE(Brent Black @ Aug 4 2007, 09:38 PM) *

Us mods spend all our free time sitting in the Mod Lounge discussing who is going to be the next target. We do this to stir drama and have fun at everyone else's expense. Dante was a martyr, and his ban was impeccably planned out as part of our ongoing mission to keep people hating us so we can make fun of them for being so serious about not taking things so serious.


I've come to realize that this past week or so on 404 has been the best week.

Can you guess why?
Kefka
You're a faggot and finally came to terms with it?
Joff
QUOTE(Kefka @ Aug 7 2007, 08:54 AM) *

You're a faggot and finally came to terms with it?


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Brent Black
QUOTE(lob @ Aug 5 2007, 12:08 AM) *

I've come to realize that this past week or so on 404 has been the best week.

Can you guess why?

oh snap you sure showed me... rolleyes.gif
Dagger Jane
Hay sum1 plz close dis.
Paul MC Hurt Meh
QUOTE(Brent Black @ Aug 8 2007, 09:55 PM) *

oh snap you sure showed me...

LOB STOP BEING THE BAD GUY!
18 With a Bullet
who the fuck invited logik back

it hought he was too busy sucking at that queer space mmo he tried to get everyone to play but failed at miserably
Feern
You guys are gay. Logik is sex.
The Clown
QUOTE(Brent Black @ Aug 5 2007, 12:38 AM) *

Us mods spend all our free time sitting in the Mod Lounge discussing who is going to be the next target. We do this to stir drama and have fun at everyone else's expense. Dante was a martyr, and his ban was impeccably planned out as part of our ongoing mission to keep people hating us so we can make fun of them for being so serious about not taking things so serious.


You might as well. Shit, look at FC up here airing out his grudge with a member of the postign community. Do you honestly think that somebody engaging in a flame war should be a moderator? What about you, trolling with this post? Dante didn't need to be banned, plain and simple. I hated the guy and I still agree with that statement. It's a social forum started by a fringe group of people from another social forum on GameFAQs. We're not the "GameDAILY Community" anymore, we don't represent any kind of corporation or website trying to maintain a professional image.

You mods are all the same. With Dei as the lone exception, every time a topic criticizing a mod action comes up, there's always one mod that trolls, one mod that gets in a flame war with a user, and the rest of the mods act like there's no problem at all and we, the lowly poster, are just too beneath them to understand that. Then someone will start complaining about all the work mods do that we dont see, and how backed up their inboxes are, and what a hellhole this place would be without any mods. They act like they're soldiers in Vietnam, and we're just hippies...we don't get it, we've never been in the shit. We've never seen what they're doing over there, and if it weren't for you mods, we'd all be speaking Vietnamese right now!

I'ml aying down a challenge to all mods: prove it. For one week, don't moderate anything outside of attempts to hack or invade the forum. Don't announce when that week will be...if you tell people they can do anything with no consequences, but in a week everything's back to normal, obviously the place will flip shit and people will start posting things that they wouldn't normally. Just go to the mod lounge, pick a week you won't mod anything, don't tell anyone, and let it happen. I wanna see this hypothetical hellhole. My bet is during that week, the only changes we'd see are an increase in random images and song lyrics and some slightly harsher flames.
Himura Kenshin
And more funny. You forgot about the more funny.
Feern
QUOTE(The Clown @ Aug 10 2007, 01:27 AM) *

You might as well. Shit, look at FC up here airing out his grudge with a member of the postign community. Do you honestly think that somebody engaging in a flame war should be a moderator? What about you, trolling with this post? Dante didn't need to be banned, plain and simple. I hated the guy and I still agree with that statement. It's a social forum started by a fringe group of people from another social forum on GameFAQs. We're not the "GameDAILY Community" anymore, we don't represent any kind of corporation or website trying to maintain a professional image.

You mods are all the same. With Dei as the lone exception, every time a topic criticizing a mod action comes up, there's always one mod that trolls, one mod that gets in a flame war with a user, and the rest of the mods act like there's no problem at all and we, the lowly poster, are just too beneath them to understand that. Then someone will start complaining about all the work mods do that we dont see, and how backed up their inboxes are, and what a hellhole this place would be without any mods. They act like they're soldiers in Vietnam, and we're just hippies...we don't get it, we've never been in the shit. We've never seen what they're doing over there, and if it weren't for you mods, we'd all be speaking Vietnamese right now!

I'ml aying down a challenge to all mods: prove it. For one week, don't moderate anything outside of attempts to hack or invade the forum. Don't announce when that week will be...if you tell people they can do anything with no consequences, but in a week everything's back to normal, obviously the place will flip shit and people will start posting things that they wouldn't normally. Just go to the mod lounge, pick a week you won't mod anything, don't tell anyone, and let it happen. I wanna see this hypothetical hellhole. My bet is during that week, the only changes we'd see are an increase in random images and song lyrics and some slightly harsher flames.


This man is right.
Circa Mojave
lol this is srs
Feern
Die Whittney!


DIE!
Poopington
QUOTE(The Clown @ Aug 9 2007, 10:27 PM) *

I'ml aying down a challenge to all mods: prove it. For one week, don't moderate anything outside of attempts to hack or invade the forum. Don't announce when that week will be...if you tell people they can do anything with no consequences, but in a week everything's back to normal, obviously the place will flip shit and people will start posting things that they wouldn't normally. Just go to the mod lounge, pick a week you won't mod anything, don't tell anyone, and let it happen. I wanna see this hypothetical hellhole. My bet is during that week, the only changes we'd see are an increase in random images and song lyrics and some slightly harsher flames.

I don't understand what that's supposed to prove.


Also, I think Dante deserved to be banned. He was told explicitly in that topic don't do it or you're banned. Then he did it. I don't really think there was any choice but to ban him. And I don't think there was any intent to make it a permanent ban, or even a long one, but then all these douche bags started parading for Dante back. I wouldn't have given in, either. I think it's more the people who were arguing about it and trying to get him back by being dicks that made sure he's still gone than the mods.


I'm more or less fine with how the site is right now. The issues I do have are small ones. Repeatedly ignored though they are, none of them matter overmuch. Except that one of them is that the users should have a little more input.
Dei
QUOTE(Poopington @ Aug 10 2007, 09:49 PM) *

I don't understand what that's supposed to prove.
Also, I think Dante deserved to be banned. He was told explicitly in that topic don't do it or you're banned. Then he did it. I don't really think there was any choice but to ban him. And I don't think there was any intent to make it a permanent ban, or even a long one, but then all these douche bags started parading for Dante back. I wouldn't have given in, either. I think it's more the people who were arguing about it and trying to get him back by being dicks that made sure he's still gone than the mods.
I'm more or less fine with how the site is right now. The issues I do have are small ones. Repeatedly ignored though they are, none of them matter overmuch. Except that one of them is that the users should have a little more input.


As much as I appreciated the vote of confidence given (makes a nice change,) me neither. (psst Dante has been back for days - why is this still a bone of contention?)

I wouldn't agree to such a challenge anyway. All it would mean is us getting grief for not answering reports for a start. I wouldn't put H&A under such a thing either, I am sorry.

Mods are not perfect/robots/always sober. It isn't always going to go the way everyone wants it. Can't please all of the people all of the time yadda yadda. But I don't think it is a massive problem. And I don't think staff actually posting like your standard user is a massive problem either. Push everyone into being either one or the other box and I think no one would be happy. And you lose even more posty people.
The Clown
QUOTE(Dei @ Aug 10 2007, 05:39 PM) *

As much as I appreciated the vote of confidence given (makes a nice change,) me neither. (psst Dante has been back for days - why is this still a bone of contention?)


Becase it shouldn't have happened in the first place. He was being a jerk, but at the same time, this really isn't the kind of forum that needs to ban people.

QUOTE(Dei @ Aug 10 2007, 05:39 PM) *
I wouldn't agree to such a challenge anyway. All it would mean is us getting grief for not answering reports for a start. I wouldn't put H&A under such a thing either, I am sorry.


I meant more of just the social boards...the Lounge, links board, music board, movies board, sports board, that kind of thing. Obviously H&A would be an exception. I honestly don't think the Lounge should be modded at all. That's the way that it was when the boards first started, and we didn't have any problems. Now we actually have a SMALLER user base. There's no reason to mod it.

QUOTE(Dei @ Aug 10 2007, 05:39 PM) *
Mods are not perfect/robots/always sober. It isn't always going to go the way everyone wants it. Can't please all of the people all of the time yadda yadda. But I don't think it is a massive problem. And I don't think staff actually posting like your standard user is a massive problem either. Push everyone into being either one or the other box and I think no one would be happy. And you lose even more posty people.


But if we're going to have mods, they should at least follow the rules. What kidn of example does it set when there's a mod engaged in a flame war with a user, slinging personal shots at him about his former drug addiction? I don't want my cops to be shoplifters, I don't want to see my mods in flame wars either. Then again, I don't relaly thin they're needed in the first place.
Feern
QUOTE(The Clown @ Aug 10 2007, 07:54 PM) *


But if we're going to have mods, they should at least follow the rules. What kidn of example does it set when there's a mod engaged in a flame war with a user, slinging personal shots at him about his former drug addiction? I don't want my cops to be shoplifters, I don't want to see my mods in flame wars either. Then again, I don't relaly thin they're needed in the first place.


Quoted for outstanding truth.



But man, you mise well be talking to the wall. No one listens or cares. They just give the same speeches over and over. Blah blah, "we don't know what you're talking about", "your ideas are bad", "you can't possibly understand what it takes to be a mod", ect. They don't listen AT all. It's quite rude.
Mormegil
QUOTE(Feern @ Aug 10 2007, 08:10 PM) *

Blah blah, we don't know what you're talking about, your ideas are bad, you can't possibly understand what it takes to be a mod.

You saved me a post, I owe you one.
Paraphen
QUOTE(Dei @ Aug 10 2007, 04:39 PM) *


I wouldn't agree to such a challenge anyway. All it would mean is us getting grief for not answering reports for a start. I wouldn't put H&A under such a thing either, I am sorry.



Do you guys mod every single post that's reported currently, or are there already posts reported which are left alone? Because given what I see remaining on the forums, it doesn't seem like people care all that much when things are not modded.



QUOTE

Mods are not perfect/robots/always sober. It isn't always going to go the way everyone wants it. Can't please all of the people all of the time yadda yadda. But I don't think it is a massive problem. And I don't think staff actually posting like your standard user is a massive problem either. Push everyone into being either one or the other box and I think no one would be happy. And you lose even more posty people.


I don't think anyone has a problem with the mods posting in, you know, the fashion of an ordinary poster. Nobody expects messages from Morm to begin with "Dear 404Daily Poster" and end with "Respectfully, Your Forum Administrator: A. Black Man" (Sorry, I dunno your real name).

But the perception seems to be that the mods post in the same fashion as everyone else, but the threshold for deleting/editing a post by a moderator is higher than for a message by a regular poster. If mods are going to flame people and be dicks to people, that's fine, but if they're going to do that, then they shouldn't be deleting posts for flaming and being dicks.

I don't really have a problem with anything that happened lately except that while everyone was busy flipping out over everything there was really nothing to do on here, but that seems to be what the people who don't like the mods are saying.


QUOTE(The Clown @ Aug 10 2007, 06:54 PM) *

Becase it shouldn't have happened in the first place. He was being a jerk, but at the same time, this really isn't the kind of forum that needs to ban people.



He was being a jerk for a while. Then Morm posted specifically that if you post Harry Potter 7 spoilers, you will be postbanned. Then Dante posted Harry Potter 7 spoilers. Then he was postbanned.

Where in all that does it not make perfect sense why he was banned? The admin made a rule because there were people here who wanted to read the book without reading spoilers first, he told everyone, he said exactly what the conseqences to breaking the rule would be, and then Dante deliberately broke it.
The Clown
Yeah, but he wasn't just postbanned...for a while, he was permabanned.
lob
I however, was postbanned, for old harry potter spoilers. What the fuck is that? Seriously, who actually read book two? Or cared?
Paraphen
QUOTE(The Clown @ Aug 10 2007, 08:49 PM) *

Yeah, but he wasn't just postbanned...for a while, he was permabanned.


I don't recall anyone saying he was to be permanently banned for that, but I'm not about to go back through old posts to try to prove it one way or the other.


EDIT:

Actually. . .


QUOTE(Mormegil @ Jul 15 2007, 10:09 PM) *

It's not a perma-ban, it's an indefinite ban. And it isn't because of spoiling Harry Potter by a stretch. This was merely the last straw in a long history of intentional asshattery.
Dagger Jane
OLD
Brent Black
QUOTE(lob @ Aug 10 2007, 09:11 PM) *

I however, was postbanned, for old harry potter spoilers. What the fuck is that? Seriously, who actually read book two? Or cared?

The rule was right there on the lounge, and it was the second time you did it after being reprimanded the first time. Don't be an idiot. None of us care enough to read six fucking books to figure out if what you said was old or not, and that was put right out there to begin with.

Jesus Christ, will you toeheads bitch about every little thing? Listen to yourselves once in awhile.

QUOTE(The Clown @ Aug 10 2007, 12:27 AM) *

You might as well. Shit, look at FC up here airing out his grudge with a member of the postign community. Do you honestly think that somebody engaging in a flame war should be a moderator? What about you, trolling with this post? Dante didn't need to be banned, plain and simple. I hated the guy and I still agree with that statement. It's a social forum started by a fringe group of people from another social forum on GameFAQs. We're not the "GameDAILY Community" anymore, we don't represent any kind of corporation or website trying to maintain a professional image.

You mods are all the same. With Dei as the lone exception, every time a topic criticizing a mod action comes up, there's always one mod that trolls, one mod that gets in a flame war with a user, and the rest of the mods act like there's no problem at all and we, the lowly poster, are just too beneath them to understand that. Then someone will start complaining about all the work mods do that we dont see, and how backed up their inboxes are, and what a hellhole this place would be without any mods. They act like they're soldiers in Vietnam, and we're just hippies...we don't get it, we've never been in the shit. We've never seen what they're doing over there, and if it weren't for you mods, we'd all be speaking Vietnamese right now!

I'ml aying down a challenge to all mods: prove it. For one week, don't moderate anything outside of attempts to hack or invade the forum. Don't announce when that week will be...if you tell people they can do anything with no consequences, but in a week everything's back to normal, obviously the place will flip shit and people will start posting things that they wouldn't normally. Just go to the mod lounge, pick a week you won't mod anything, don't tell anyone, and let it happen. I wanna see this hypothetical hellhole. My bet is during that week, the only changes we'd see are an increase in random images and song lyrics and some slightly harsher flames.

What the fuck is this? I CHALLENGE THE MODS TO DO WHAT I SAY AND NOT WHAT THE RULES OF THIS FORUM STATE. Shut up.
Feern
Mods = Police
Poopington
Man, fuck the po-lice.
Feern
Coming straight from the underground
A young nigga' got it bad
Cause I'm brown
lumabean
QUOTE(Brent Black @ Aug 16 2007, 11:54 PM) *

The rule was right there on the lounge, and it was the second time you did it after being reprimanded the first time. Don't be an idiot. None of us care enough to read six fucking books to figure out if what you said was old or not, and that was put right out there to begin with.

Jesus Christ, will you toeheads bitch about every little thing? Listen to yourselves once in awhile.
What the fuck is this? I CHALLENGE THE MODS TO DO WHAT I SAY AND NOT WHAT THE RULES OF THIS FORUM STATE. Shut up.

Wow you're a condescending asshole.
Trogdor the Burninator
Brent Black: Fight me.
Circa Mojave
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Usurper
People still care about the rules?

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The Clown
QUOTE(Brent Black @ Aug 17 2007, 12:54 AM) *

The rule was right there on the lounge, and it was the second time you did it after being reprimanded the first time. Don't be an idiot. None of us care enough to read six fucking books to figure out if what you said was old or not, and that was put right out there to begin with.

Jesus Christ, will you toeheads bitch about every little thing? Listen to yourselves once in awhile.
What the fuck is this? I CHALLENGE THE MODS TO DO WHAT I SAY AND NOT WHAT THE RULES OF THIS FORUM STATE. Shut up.


No, it's I challenge you to show me the oh-so-hard life of the mods that people always lament about. I want to see the hellhole this place would supossedly be without moderators.
Kefka
No one complains about modding being hard. That's nice that you want to see that but nobody cares.
Usurper
The only thing that would go on without mods would be more stupid insults and a few pictures of Dei. This is a small, unsuccessful board that doesn't really need the bullshit staff, who use this place as some sort of ego boost.
Ænima
QUOTE(Feern @ Aug 17 2007, 03:20 AM) *

Mods = Police



I liked when you compared them to janitors. That worked perfectly. Clean up my shit.
The Clown
QUOTE(Kefka @ Aug 24 2007, 04:16 AM) *

No one complains about modding being hard. That's nice that you want to see that but nobody cares.


Oh, yes they do. Every time something gets modded and someone says "Is this really that big of a problem? It's just a fad, let it go." Morm or somebody says "Oh, it is a big problem. You should see our mod inboxes."

Also

http://forums.404daily.com/index.php?showt...=5990&st=50

Bam, more mod abuse. A mod didn't agree with AEnima's post, so he edited it to say he was a dumbass? That's bullshit. Pure bullshit. Don't even say it was because he was flaming, there were a hundred other users flaming people in that topic. Mods only mod people they have a grudge against and everyone else gets a free fuckin' pass, it's as simple as that.
Ænima
QUOTE(The Clown @ Aug 24 2007, 10:08 AM) *

Oh, yes they do. Every time something gets modded and someone says "Is this really that big of a problem? It's just a fad, let it go." Morm or somebody says "Oh, it is a big problem. You should see our mod inboxes."

Also

http://forums.404daily.com/index.php?showt...=5990&st=50

Bam, more mod abuse. A mod didn't agree with AEnima's post, so he edited it to say he was a dumbass? That's bullshit. Pure bullshit. Don't even say it was because he was flaming, there were a hundred other users flaming people in that topic. Mods only mod people they have a grudge against and everyone else gets a free fuckin' pass, it's as simple as that.



I was about to come in here and post that.

What is that shit? Like i said, my first posts werent even hostile, i just responded with it when it was directed at me. And the only reason its not still in my post is because i went back myself and edited that shit back out. But its right there in Usurpers post, in blue.

but its okay. The mods will find some bullshit excuse to make it all right, maybe even ban me for going off on the mod. But whatever, the board's going to shit and its because of the shitty posters we have. I wasnt even trying to start a fight, but the mods are, as i've said, BIASED, and dont care until its someone they dont like.

Fuck janitors.
Feern
QUOTE(Usurper @ Aug 24 2007, 09:24 AM) *

The only thing that would go on without mods would be more stupid insults and a few pictures of Dei. This is a small, unsuccessful board that doesn't really need the bullshit staff, who use this place as some sort of ego boost.


This is pretty much the truth. Even though I love most of the mods (personally) I don't think there's much need for them. This place is never gonna get bigger, only smaller.
Dei
You know what? I am fed up now. Every reasonable discussion has turned into a stupid argument. Every mod decision is ignored. Yet this topic is filled with wails about mod abuse. As far as I am concerned right now the only abuse going on is the stuff directed at the damn mods.

If a mod edits it is for a reason. Turn it back and you have no proof and so there is no point whingeing about it. If you have a problem you need to show the actual problem. I see no problem and I refuse to deal in 'no they really did do it' No quotes and screenshots equals no decisions. And the 'everyone one else did it so why did I get modded' crap won't cut it either. Unless you really want us to mod everyone that so much as puts a toe out of line. Everyone is so certain what they are posting is right and justified and that other guy? Well he should be modded and banned not them since clearly there is a difference in the temperature of the flames. And if a mod takes exception to your temperature he is the biased one. You all go on about equality yet I am not seeing many users treating other users as their equals. Let alone the mods who are first and foremost users of the boards with as much rights as the next poster.

Mods have had grief for not posting and still modding. Posting and modding. And in some cases even posting and NOT modding. If there was some consensus on an actual problem then maybe things would be fixed. But all I see is biased users taking out frustrations on a group they can see without much basis.

From here on out it will be a case by case basis. If you cannot give evidence to the admins of actual mod abuse please don't bother. Apart from editing we can see what happens. All posts go to a trash board. We have a stable admin with tech ability who actually shows up. Got a difficulty direct it at him. And quit with all the personal insults. It is solving nothing and only creates more bad feeling.
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