Feern
Jun 29 2007, 06:56 PM
Just wondering. I have a bit of extra cash and would like to get into reading again.
Poopington
Jun 29 2007, 07:40 PM
I haven't read it, but I've heard good things about Less Than Zero. I just found it in my room while cleaning. I'll probably give it a go soon and see how it is.
PA.
Jun 29 2007, 09:21 PM
I started reading Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace. It doesn't center around drugs, quite a few of the characters smoke weed and he goes into some depth about their drug use. I read most of it stoned which made it even better, though it took me longer to get through each chapter (I was only like 70 pages in when I had to return it to the library). And it wasn't really a fast read to begin with, so yeah. Definitely gonna buy it when I get money for weed though (book is like 10 bucks now, which is nice considering its size).
Feern
Jun 30 2007, 07:47 AM
Less than zero you say. What's it about.
Poopington
Jun 30 2007, 08:42 AM
This off of Amazon:
Book Description-
Set in Los Angeles in the early 1980's, this coolly mesmerizing novel is a raw, powerful portrait
of a lost generation who have experienced sex, drugs, and disaffection at too early an age, in a
world shaped by casual nihilism, passivity, and too much money a place devoid of feeling or
hope.
Clay comes home for Christmas vacation from his Eastern college and re-enters a landscape of
limitless privilege and absolute moral entropy, where everyone drives Porches, dines at Spago,
and snorts mountains of cocaine. He tries to renew feelings for his girlfriend, Blair, and for his
best friend from high school, Julian, who is careering into hustling and heroin. Clay's holiday
turns into a dizzying spiral of desperation that takes him through the relentless parties in glitzy
mansions, seedy bars, and underground rock clubs and also into the seamy world of L.A. after dark.
It may be a while before I start it, though. I've got about thirty movies out from the library that need to go back, posthaste, and a few from Blockbuster. Also several books I've had out longer than Less Than Zero.
Apparently it was written by the dude at nineteen, but it's supposed to be pretty good.
Feern
Jun 30 2007, 09:14 AM
QUOTE(Poopington @ Jun 30 2007, 09:42 AM)

This off of Amazon:
Book Description-
Set in Los Angeles in the early 1980's, this coolly mesmerizing novel is a raw, powerful portrait
of a lost generation who have experienced sex, drugs, and disaffection at too early an age, in a
world shaped by casual nihilism, passivity, and too much money a place devoid of feeling or
hope.
Clay comes home for Christmas vacation from his Eastern college and re-enters a landscape of
limitless privilege and absolute moral entropy, where everyone drives Porches, dines at Spago,
and snorts mountains of cocaine. He tries to renew feelings for his girlfriend, Blair, and for his
best friend from high school, Julian, who is careering into hustling and heroin. Clay's holiday
turns into a dizzying spiral of desperation that takes him through the relentless parties in glitzy
mansions, seedy bars, and underground rock clubs and also into the seamy world of L.A. after dark.
It may be a while before I start it, though. I've got about thirty movies out from the library that need to go back, posthaste, and a few from Blockbuster. Also several books I've had out longer than Less Than Zero.
Apparently it was written by the dude at nineteen, but it's supposed to be pretty good.
Sounds pretty good. I do hate rich kids though, lol. I think I might pick it up.
Shit like this makes me think I could write a true story about my life. I'm damn sure I've seen shit that people would be pretty interested in.
Trogdor the Burninator
Jun 30 2007, 10:28 AM
Hunter S. Thompson obviously...
Poopington
Jun 30 2007, 10:47 AM
QUOTE(Feernie @ Jun 30 2007, 07:14 AM)

Sounds pretty good. I do hate rich kids though, lol. I think I might pick it up.
Shit like this makes me think I could write a true story about my life. I'm damn sure I've seen shit that people would be pretty interested in.
Yeah, rich kids suck balls.
And hmm, I've never thought about that. You should definitely give it a go. At least compose some stories (I'm sure you've got them out the ass), and then you can put them together at some point.
Keats
Jun 30 2007, 11:56 AM
I read the first few pages of William S. Burrough's Naked Lunch, and thought it was pretty damn enjoyable.
http://www.amazon.com/Naked-Lunch-Restored...2529&sr=8-2
Feern
Jun 30 2007, 12:13 PM
So far I'm either gonna get Burrough's Junky or Naked Lunch or Trainspotting or something from HST.
The Batman
Jun 30 2007, 12:43 PM
Well, I just got done with the book Money, which was actually in Times top 100 novels ever list. I don't think it really deserved that, but it was still good. It's all about some guy trying to make a movie in the 80's, having to deal with all his personal problems, and such. Materialism is the main subject throughout the entire book, and he very much lives the life of a drunk with some drugs occasionally thrown in there.
Some others I have heard were good but haven't read myself are On the Road by Jack Kerouac and The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe.
lumabean
Jun 30 2007, 04:56 PM
Less Than Zero is kind of shitty actually. Rules of Attraction is by the same author, deals with the same amount of sex and drugs, and is marginally better.
PA.
Jun 30 2007, 05:40 PM
I hear Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test is pretty good but I haven't read it. Supposed to be about Timothy Leary, Grateful Dead, LSD, etc etc
Brent Black
Jul 1 2007, 08:38 AM
QUOTE(Nickolay @ Jun 30 2007, 05:40 PM)

I hear Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test is pretty good but I haven't read it. Supposed to be about Timothy Leary, Grateful Dead, LSD, etc etc
Not so much about Timothy Leary, he was a different influence on the LSD scene than the scope of EKAT. EKAT is more about Ken Kesey (author of
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) and the Merry Pranksters, which by default includes the Warlocks/Grateful Dead. Kesey's people were all about having fun and going crazy on acid, Leary was more about figuring it out and using it to your creative advantage. Each has its own merits, but the Pranksters make for a more interesting read, IMO. If you're into that era, I'd also suggest Phil Lesh's
Searching for the Sound. It goes into great detail in regards to the 60s and 70s and explains how the music and drug scenes came together.
I'm reading
The Joke's Over right now, Ralph Steadman's autobiography of his times with Hunter S. Thompson. It gives a different outlook on the whole Gonzo experience, one of a man who tried to get into it from an observatory standpoint and ended up getting sucked into it's insanity and overindulgence. Great read.
Another suggestion would be David Foster Wallace's
Infinite Jest. It's a monster of a novel, 800 pages of text and 200 pages of footnotes, and it isn't
exactly about drugs, but rather a form of entertainment that is making addicts out of anyone unfortunate enough to come in contact with it. There are still plenty of conventional drugs in the book, but it's more of a social satire on the state of narcotics in American society. One of my favorite books.
Then there's
Permanent Midnight, the story of the heroin-addicted TV writer who had nightmarish visions of an alien coming to take his body, and turned it into the wildly successful sitcom
ALF as a means of self-treatment.
Feern
Jul 1 2007, 01:40 PM
Awesome thanks
Distort My Image
Jul 3 2007, 01:43 PM
Twelve. I cannot for the life of me remember who wrote it, but I remember liking it solely for it's entertainment value. The ending is terrible, but doesn't ruin the book, and there is little literary influence...but it's an entertaining read to say the least.
It's about this drug dealer and this new drug, Twelve, which actually doesn't make much of an appearance in the book if I recall correctly...and just the lives of all these rich druggies and whatnot. Sounds a lot like Less than Zero because the author of it wrote it when he was pretty young as well.
Oh I just remembered about A Scanner Darkly. It's a movie but it was a book first, and if the books-are-generally-better-than-movies rule applies here then it would definitely be worth checking out. It's by Philipp K Dick, I think.
Shawn
Jul 3 2007, 09:49 PM
Blow is a good book , details the life of George Jung
Feern
Jul 4 2007, 08:11 AM
Blow happens to be one of my favorite movies ever.
Actually... Blow, Trainspotting, Basketball Diaries, Spun, Drugstore Cowboy, Rec for a Dream, ect. I've seen them all and love them. Maybe I should just get the books.
Scorched Earth Policy
Jul 4 2007, 02:32 PM
For someone who is supposedly trying to clean up from hard drugs, wouldn't you want to get as far away from the subject matter as possible?
Anyways, avoid Naked Lunch. It has more to do with Pederasty than drugs.
Feern
Jul 4 2007, 04:32 PM
QUOTE(Scorched Earth Policy @ Jul 4 2007, 03:32 PM)

For someone who is supposedly trying to clean up from hard drugs, wouldn't you want to get as far away from the subject matter as possible?
Anyways, avoid Naked Lunch. It has more to do with Pederasty than drugs.
I like things I can relate to. Go figure.
18 With a Bullet
Jul 4 2007, 07:30 PM
Get the book Porno by the guy who did Trainspotting.
Another Bullshit Night in Suck City doesn't have many drugs, but it was an awesome book.
Ænima
Jul 22 2007, 07:18 PM
I've found that books with movie adaptations are easy to read. Casino, GoodFellas, Clockwork Orange, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, The Exorcist, Fear and Loathing... I know most dont have much to do with drugs, but you named a bunch of movies earlier and it made me think about other movie/books.
Xaeser
Jul 22 2007, 10:47 PM
QUOTE(Nickolay @ Jul 3 2007, 09:51 PM)

Oh I just remembered about A Scanner Darkly. It's a movie but it was a book first, and if the books-are-generally-better-than-movies rule applies here then it would definitely be worth checking out. It's by Philipp K Dick, I think.
Wasn't Dick on drugs while writing the book?
Brent Black
Jul 23 2007, 01:23 AM
QUOTE(xJames @ Jul 4 2007, 07:30 PM)

Get the book Porno by the guy who did Trainspotting.
Another Bullshit Night in Suck City doesn't have many drugs, but it was an awesome book.
On that note, The Marabou Stork Nightmares is a great book.
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