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Zombie N-Word
QUOTE(kyle @ Jul 22 2007, 10:38 PM) *

Well, Voldemort's a pinhead. For the most powerful dark wizard of all time he sure acted dumb in this book.


That was quite evident when he didn't check himself to see if Harry was dead.
Poopington
QUOTE(kyle @ Jul 22 2007, 07:33 PM) *

I just thought of this...

Why wasn't Voldemort out looking for a 7th horcrux to put his soul into? Harry was apparently the 7th and final horcrux, but Voldemort didn't know that did he? I read through these books way too fast...

Harry was the eighth, accidentally.

Lemme see, there was Voldemort, the diary, the tiara thing, the cup, the locket, the ring, and Nagini.
Ender Wiggin
QUOTE(kyle @ Jul 22 2007, 10:03 PM) *

I just have one question. In OOTP Voldemort was able to minipulate Harry's images and faked Harry into believing that Sirius was dying, which led Harry right to him. Was their a particular reason why Voldemort didn't do this again?


He was scared shitless of the connection between himself and Harry, especially after he couldn't get his hands on the true prophecy and when using a different wand still had the same effect as the twin core wand he used in Goblet of Fire.

QUOTE(kyle @ Jul 22 2007, 10:33 PM) *

Why wasn't Voldemort out looking for a 7th horcrux to put his soul into? Harry was apparently the 7th and final horcrux, but Voldemort didn't know that did he? I read through these books way too fast...


He wanted to split his soul into 7 parts, not make 7 horcruxes (which would be 8 soul pieces)

QUOTE(kyle @ Jul 22 2007, 10:38 PM) *

Well, Voldemort's a pinhead. For the most powerful dark wizard of all time he sure acted dumb in this book.


It's more that he's arrogant rather than stupid. It's every villain's ultimate downfall.
18 With a Bullet
I was also amazed at Dobby fucking pwning people left and right int he Malfoy Manor.
Grimes
Just finished, managed to avoid any and all spoilers without limiting my inner-netting.

I think just about everything I'd have to say has been said already. The aimless hiding seemed to drag on for too long, and I think the epilogue could've been done a lot better to get some of the same facts across. I also thought Wormtail's debt to Harry would've been something a bit more useful.

I've really liked seeing into the past in James' era, even moreso with the Snape chapter this book. I do wonder how Lily went from thinking James was such a cock to being madly in love.

Overall, I thought it was a great ending to a series I've been with since middle school. McGonagall rounding shit up for battle and Neville kicking ass was pretty awesome. I'm satisfied.
Dei
QUOTE(Grimes @ Jul 23 2007, 09:58 PM) *

I've really liked seeing into the past in James' era, even moreso with the Snape chapter this book. I do wonder how Lily went from thinking James was such a cock to being madly in love.


This is the bit I didn't really find jarring. Every stupid thing Snape or James said was a reaction to the other and trying to show off in front of Lily. Neither was really an arse, not at their core, but both were so nutty about her they would keep doing the human equivalent of waving their bottoms to impress the girl. Snape didn't listen to her warning about the path he was taking. I think if he hadn he would have actually been real competition for James.
Poopington
I heard that she wrote the epilogue before the first book. Maybe that's why it sucked.
Grimes
Oh, there was one thing I wondered about. I don't remember if it ever came out and said it, but the old man Voldemort killed at Nurmengard was Grindelwald. Though, I thought the Elder Wand's master had to be slain to rightfully belong to someone else, but Dumbledore mastered it while Grindelwald was merely imprisoned. Any explanation for that?

I also would've liked to have known what kind of jobs everyone has and such in the epilogue, rather than what their asshole kids are up to.
Poopington
You can just disarm them. That's how Malfoy was the master of it in the end.

I'm a little unsure how Dumbledore beat Grindelwald, though, since they were supposed to be fairly equal, and GW had the EW up in da house. Then again, Rita Skeeter said something about the duel not being all it was cut out to be. Maybe it was more like a

DD: What's that? (points behind GW)

GW: What? (looks)

DD: Expelliarmus!
Zombie N-Word
Now that you mention Rita, part of me was hoping that more Animagus related stuff would've come up in this book. Truth be told, before it came out I thought this book might've been a few years after the last with Harry and crew having been off in the world looking for Horcruxes and learning new shit instead of camping and not doing anything for a while.

I wonder what else the elder wand is capable of though, and -1 to Harry for not fixing Hagrid's wand.
Haruko
I wasn't too upset with the book. The epilogue did seem a bit rushed, but I did like the little peek into their future. Also the whole camping part of the book wasn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. It was interspersed with action. Three 17 year olds on the run with the patchy leads left to them by Dumbledore, what else were they supposed to do? And they made a point that apparition can only take you so far. Voldemort had to fly a certain distance to other countries before he could apparate. The only way they could have done it is with brooms and that would have been to dangerous. One wrong move and the enemy was on their tales so they didi the best they could with what they had. There was really no chance of world travel or doing anything but camping by themselves.
Grimes
I realized that since Harry and Voldemort are both descendents of the Peverells, Harry too is a descendant of Slytherin. The Gaunts claimed to be the last known descendants from Salazar Slytherin, with the Peverells in there somewhere before the blood name died out. So, the Potters are very distantly in the same line as well.

Just thought that was interesting.
Ender Wiggin
QUOTE(Grimes @ Jul 24 2007, 10:32 AM) *

I realized that since Harry and Voldemort are both descendents of the Peverells, Harry too is a descendant of Slytherin. The Gaunts claimed to be the last known descendants from Salazar Slytherin, with the Peverells in there somewhere before the blood name died out. So, the Potters are very distantly in the same line as well.

Just thought that was interesting.


Actually the Peverells are older than Salazar. Salazar is one of their descendants so Harry doesn't have to be related to Slytherin at all, he could be on the completely opposite end of the family tree coming from the 3 brothers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts_foun...lazar_Slytherin
Grimes
QUOTE(Ender Wiggin @ Jul 24 2007, 01:52 PM) *

Actually the Peverells are older than Salazar. Salazar is one of their descendants so Harry doesn't have to be related to Slytherin at all, he could be on the completely opposite end of the family tree coming from the 3 brothers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts_foun...lazar_Slytherin

Damn. Served. sad.gif
Ender Wiggin
QUOTE(Grimes @ Jul 24 2007, 03:40 PM) *

Damn. Served. sad.gif


I didn't mean it like that or anything, I had to look it up because I had forgotten that Voldemort was even related to the Peverells.

It would've been kinda interesting if Harry could've been somehow related to both Salazar and Godric, explaining the Sorting Hat dilemma.
Asuka
WHAT HAPPENED TO LUNA. FUCK.
Zombie N-Word
QUOTE(Asuka @ Jul 24 2007, 09:32 PM) *

WHAT HAPPENED TO LUNA. FUCK.


She grew up and married you.
Master Bob
QUOTE(Asuka @ Jul 24 2007, 09:32 PM) *
WHAT HAPPENED TO LUNA. FUCK.
Luna's a badass. Evanna Lynch will be a hottie when older.

Snape's arrogance made him shortsighted and blind and stupid.
Ender Wiggin
Oh, also I might've missed this in the King's Cross chapter, but was it ever explained why Voldemort's wand broke when trying to cast the spell on Harry in the very beginning of the book before the whole Elder Wand thing came into play?
kyle
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Zombie N-Word
QUOTE(Ender Wiggin @ Jul 25 2007, 02:07 PM) *

Oh, also I might've missed this in the King's Cross chapter, but was it ever explained why Voldemort's wand broke when trying to cast the spell on Harry in the very beginning of the book before the whole Elder Wand thing came into play?


When Harry's wand came into contact with Voldy's, it was apparently imbued with some of it's properties...

Yeah...I don't know what that really means either.
Epoch
QUOTE(Zombie N-Word @ Jul 25 2007, 04:04 PM) *

When Harry's wand came into contact with Voldy's, it was apparently imbued with some of it's properties...

Yeah...I don't know what that really means either.

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Yeah, it got kind of confusing there. Something to do with Voldemort now having Harry's mother's blood protection and a wand of an enemy. The confusion of recognizing Voldemort as both kin and enemy caused a reaction... something like that. She rushed through it a bit.

Just finished book (got it at a midnight sale, but I've had family shit and haven't been able to read that much).

Question: how did Neville get the sword? Last I remember Griphook took the sword from Harry in Gringotts (awesome sequence, btw). It may have been mentioned, but I don't remember it.

The chapter with Lily and Snape was cool.

Mad Eye's death was really poorly done. I'm not saying he should have lived (it allowed for Umbridge to have his eye in her door, which was interesting), but it was really rushed.

The foray into the Ministry was well done, I thought.

Killing off Fred and Tonks was pointless. Lupin I could kind of see, for one, because it allowed for him to show up when Harry went into the Forest, although it would have been nice if he had lived. For a second I thought she was gonna kill off Hagrid. Then I really would have been PISSED.

I didn't mind that stretch where they did nothing except move around in the tent that much because I think she was just trying to make the reader realize how the characters felt: pissed off at how they had no idea what to do. It was still kind of annoying, though.

I didn't like how everything was done, but overall I'm satisfied. I wish she had taken out some of that tent-moving portion and added a few more details about the deaths, the whole Harry's wand thing, etc. I still think it was really good, though.
Ender Wiggin
QUOTE(Epoch @ Jul 26 2007, 12:57 AM) *

Question: how did Neville get the sword? Last I remember Griphook took the sword from Harry in Gringotts (awesome sequence, btw). It may have been mentioned, but I don't remember it.


He pulled it out of the Sorting Hat because of his act of pure bravery, similar to Harry's in Chamber of Secrets. Before the 2nd book the sword wasn't originally in Dumbledore's office, it was somewhere else until Harry pulled it out.
LifeofX
I felt cheated with some of the deaths.

Like how only fred died but everyone else was able to immediately walk away from the explosion. JK was just tryin for some tears

Lupin wasnt given a proper death at all and was only killed so Harry could have the Sirius parallel.

Hedwig was totally unnecessary except for the fact that it made it easier for harry and gang to travel around discretely

and wtf, how did the bad giants die? and why didnt the spiders eat hagrid?
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