pwetty pwease???

If CJayC (and probably others who don't leap to mind) can do it while never coming here, so can you.

Signed.

Signed.

*written*

*Filibusters*

On Saturday, August 21st. Douglas and Lincoln according to previous notice, met for the first time during the canvass in joint discussion. The number present is estimated at twelve thousand. Mr. Douglas left the cars about three miles west of town, and was met and escorted by an immense procession, bearing flags, banners, mottoes, &c., to the Geiger House, where he was welcomed in a neat address by Hon. W. H. W. Cushman. Mr. Lincoln came in on the cars and was escorted to a hotel by his friends. After dinner an immense concourse of people gathered around the stand to hear the discussion. The time was equally divided. Douglas made an opening speech of an hour, followed by Lincoln in a speech of an hour and a half, when Douglas closed the discussion in a half hour speech.

In opening the discussion, Mr. Douglas reverted to the fact, that prior to 1854, the two great parties then organized in opposition to each other — the whig and democratic parties — were both national and patriotic. Old line whigs as well as democrats, could proclaim their principles in Louisiana and Massachusetts alike. Whig principles were not bounded by the line of the free and slave states, but were proclaimed wherever the Constitution ruled. So it was and so it is with the great democratic party. That when the question of slavery in the territories came up in 1850, the Whig and Democratic parties united on a common platform, and jointly adopted the compromise measures of 1850 as the correct basis for adjusting the slavery question. In 1852 the two parties, in their national Conventions, fully indorsed the adjustment of 1850. Thus up to 1854, when the Nebraska bill was brought before congress for the purpose of carrying out the principles which up to that time both parties had approved, there had been no division in the country in regard to that principle, except the opposition of the abolitionists.

In 1854, said Mr. Douglas, Mr. Abraham Lincoln and Mr. Trumbull entered into an arrangement, one with the other, to dissolve the old Whig party in on the one hand, and the Old Democratic party on the other, and to collect the members into an Abolition party under the name and disguise of a Republican party. — (Laughter and cheers, hurrah for Douglas.) The terms of that arrangement between Mr. Lincoln and Mr. Trumbull, have been published to the world by Mr. Lincoln's special friend, James H. Matheny, Esq., and they were that Lincoln should have Shield's place in the U. S. senate, and that Trumbull should have my seat when my time expired. (Great laughter.) Lincoln went to work to abolitionize the old Whig party all over the state, pretending he was as good Whig as ever; (laugher) and Trumbull went to work in his part of the state preaching Abolitionism in its milder and lighter form, to abolitionize the Democratic party, and bring old Democrats handcuffed into the Abolition camp. (Hurrah for Douglas and cheers.)

Mr. Douglas then reverted to the proceedings of the first mass Republican State Convention, which met at Springfield in 1854, for the purpose of organizing the Republican party on the ruins of the old Whig party, and read what purported to be a platform of principles adopted by that convention. That platform (the same published in another column,) committed the republican party to the repeal of the fugitive slave law; to the abolition of slavery in the District of Columbia; to prohibit the admission of any more slave states into the Union; to prohibit slavery in all the territories; and to resist the acquisition of any more territories unless slavery shall have been prohibited therein. And furthermore, the platform pledged the republican party to support no man for office who is not positively and fully committed to these principles.

As Mr. Douglas read the resolutions embodying the above platform, each resolution was greeted with cheers from the republicans. Mr. Douglas then said: "Now, gentlemen you republicans have cheered every one of these propositions, (good, and cheers) and yet I venture to say you cannot get Mr. Lincoln to come out and say he is in favor of each one of them. (Laughter and applause. Hit him again.)."

Mr. Douglas then re-stated the propositions contained in the above republican platform, and appended to each proposition the interogatory to Mr. Lincoln, whether he stands to-day, as he did in 1854, in favor of that article, and of each article of that creed? He claimed that he had a right to an answer to these questions. The affirmative cheers of Mr. Lincoln's friends were not sufficient. He required an answer from Mr. Lincoln himself. He said, "I ask Abraham Lincoln to answer these questions, in order that when I trot him down to lower Egypt I may put the same questions to him. (Enthusiastic applause.)"

Mr. Douglas then made a running reference to his own political history in connection with that of Mr. Lincoln. There had been many points of sympathy between them in their early struggles in a strange land. While he, (Douglas) was a school teacher in Winchester, Lincoln was a flourishing grocery keeper in the town of Salem, &c. Mr. Douglas proceeded to review briefly, the leading points advanced in his former speeches, and thus closed his hour.

Anti-signs.

I should mod waaaay before you get it again.

Only if I can be mod again.

Oh yeah I was a mod too.

Eh, you're kinda too much of a jerkass. Plus I could see some mass warnage for stupidity or something.

I'll take the first part as a compliment, but I must disagree on the second part. The only "warnage" I would do would be on the ID board...and even that is dead now.

I would mod the fuck out of a select few, however!

Someone needs a haircut



RIMSHOT

I could take it or leave it.