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PA.
http://folding.stanford.edu/

QUOTE(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding%40home)
Folding@home (also known as FAH or F@H) is a distributed computing project designed to perform computationally intensive simulations of protein folding and other molecular dynamics simulations. It was launched on October 1, 2000, and is currently managed by the Pande Group, within Stanford University's Chemistry department, under the supervision of Professor Vijay S. Pande. F@H is one of the largest distributed computing projects.[1] The goal of the project is "to understand protein folding, misfolding, and related diseases."[2]

Accurate simulations of protein folding and misfolding enable the scientific community to better understand the development of many diseases, including Alzheimer's disease, BSE (mad cow disease), Cancer, Huntington's Disease, Cystic Fibrosis and other aggregation related diseases. [2] More fundamentally, understanding the process of protein folding -- how biological molecules assemble themselves into a functional state -- is one of the outstanding problems of molecular biology. So far, the F@H project has successfully simulated folding in the 5-10 microsecond range—a time scale thousands of times longer than was previously thought possible.

The science behind it:
http://folding.stanford.edu/science.html

Basically what you do is download a small client which will run in the background and use the unused CPU power in your PC to perform these simulations. With hundreds of thousands of people doing this, it's much more efficient than using a supercomputer. And it doesn't take up any CPU power that's already being used, only the leftovers.

So yeah, I thought this would be a pretty cool thing for us to do, so let's jump on it. I already made a 404Error team:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.p...p;teamnum=54175

Just put in the team number (54175) into the 'configure..' menu when you download the client and your stats will go towards our team. I think you have to wait for the first packet (frame) to finish simulating and be uploaded back to the server for you to be registeredon the team's page so be patient with it.
Anomaly
Yesterday's Folding Fact (#58) is incorrect. I made a topic about it on the boards, watch everyone call me a smartypants and I'll get flamed to hell.

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Yesterday's folding fact was inaccurate. What Ignaz Semmelweis noticed was not that Puerperal, or childbed, fever was being spread from mother to mother, but from cadavers to mothers. This was because that ward in particular, interestingly, had both a higher mortality rate than any other, and was also staffed by med students who studied on cadavers. He called it "Leichengift", or corpse-poison (this was before Germ Theory) and by getting the students to wash their hands between handing cadavers and patients he was able to greatly reduce the mortality rate. I first read about this in the textbook Dichter, Denker, und Erzaehler and it was confirmed by the wikipedia article.

I wouldn't bring this up at all, except that the Folding Facts are there to educate us, and when they instead mis-inform it's a little bit troubling.

If this is too off-topic, mods, please feel free to move it.
enKrypt
QUOTE(Anomaly @ Mar 7 2007, 10:23 PM) *

Yesterday's Folding Fact (#58) is incorrect. I made a topic about it on the boards, watch everyone call me a smartypants and I'll get flamed to hell.


smartypants

flame flame flame
AlienFromBeyond
Laptop = no.
Brent Black
QUOTE(Anomaly @ Mar 7 2007, 09:23 PM) *

Yesterday's Folding Fact (#58) is incorrect. I made a topic about it on the boards, watch everyone call me a smartypants and I'll get flamed to hell.

Haha, nice shot.

I've been meaning to install this. Once I swap back over to my XP drive, I'll get started.
Codeman
QUOTE(Anomaly @ Mar 7 2007, 11:23 PM) *

Yesterday's Folding Fact (#58) is incorrect. I made a topic about it on the boards, watch everyone call me a smartypants and I'll get flamed to hell.

I didn't flame you... unsure.gif
Anomaly
QUOTE(Codeman @ Mar 8 2007, 12:49 AM) *

I didn't flame you... unsure.gif

You didn't post at all tongue.gif
Pumpkin
I just joined the team.
PA.
So I've done like 300 frames so far but it hasn't uploaded anything yet. I'm not sure, maybe I have to do all 5000 of them before it sends the info back.
Codeman
QUOTE(Anomaly @ Mar 8 2007, 02:20 AM) *

You didn't post at all tongue.gif

Touche. tongue.gif
enKrypt
I'm #1 XD
Pumpkin
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PA.
Yeah I htink it only updates when you get one WU done. I'm still only halfway through mine.
enKrypt
QUOTE(Nickolay @ Mar 11 2007, 10:36 PM) *

Yeah I htink it only updates when you get WU done. I'm still only halfway through mine.


Yea that seems to be how it works. I'm at 1300/5000 on my third job.
enKrypt
You guys suck at this game.
Codeman
Wow, am I ever late to the party. Just started doing it up now.

EDIT: So when can I actually do something, right now it's showing 0/5000...
enKrypt
QUOTE(Codeman @ Mar 18 2007, 04:05 PM) *

Wow, am I ever late to the party. Just started doing it up now.

EDIT: So when can I actually do something, right now it's showing 0/5000...


It takes a little while, I've been doing it since the day this topic was made and I've only completed 5 WUs.
Yoshmasta
I actually do this for my internship and it takes me 3 days to get .5 nanoseonds (500 frames) and I run them on 4 processors in the lab. Donating your computing time really helps a lot, especially when you have many home computers. My system is pretty small compared to other systems so by donating your time you're really making larger systems more practical to run.

I think my lab is working on something like what Stanford did where you can run it on computers across the U.S. and I may actually have to make an interface for it.

Stanford also released something like this for PS3 cause ps3s are 10x faster than one computer on a cluster.
Codeman
If you buy a PS3 you can increase your power by tenfold I hear.

BTW, is there anyway to just minimize it? All I see is the X button and I don't want to close it in fear of losing progress or something.
enKrypt
QUOTE(Codeman @ Mar 18 2007, 05:40 PM) *

If you buy a PS3 you can increase your power by tenfold I hear.

BTW, is there anyway to just minimize it? All I see is the X button and I don't want to close it in fear of losing progress or something.


It goes down to the taskbar.
Master Bob
Are you guys running the GUI or the command-line one?
enKrypt
GUI

I need to figure out how to run 2 apps, because I have 2 cores and it will only run 100% on one if I disable it from running on the other.
Master Bob
Totally use the command-line. And are you saying Dual Core or hyper-Threading?

EDIT:
What is Folding & Ultimate Tips @ Maximum PC forums.
enKrypt
QUOTE(Master Bob @ Mar 19 2007, 12:15 AM) *

Totally use the command-line. And are you saying Dual Core or hyper-Threading?

EDIT:
What is Folding & Ultimate Tips @ Maximum PC forums.


Why use command line? And I mean dual core, I'm not dumb lolz. I have an Athlon 62 X2 4600+
Brent Black
QUOTE(Codeman @ Mar 18 2007, 03:40 PM) *

If you buy a PS3 you can increase your power by tenfold I hear.

I think, in all honesty, that's just another way for Sony to try to push their system. I've yet to see any kind of benchmarks that say that the PS3 can outperform PCs by the orders of magnitude that they claim. Granted, there aren't a lot of folding benchmarks out there, but until I see differently, I see no way how the Cell chip can outperform standard CPUs by that margin. Shit, Sony is claiming an upwards of 50x greater turnaround on their chip. The Cell simply isn't that good.

I do appreciate what they're doing, though. This folding research can cure the same disease that killed my brother. Even if it performs at .5x what a PC is capable of, it's a noble effort.
Master Bob
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainm...ange-246664.php
Codeman is right. You do increase your folding power by approximately 10.
he PS3 is currently @ .024480 TFlops/CPU vs Intel mac @ 0.002577 TFLOPS/CPU that puts it at 9.499 times more powerfull.
enKrypt
Hey guys...umm...I've only been using 50% of my power. I'm going to use it all now.
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