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Asuka
Ok, you guys seem to know a little bit more about weight loss and muscle gain than i do, so i'm lookin for some help here. I'm trying to primarily drop unwanted pounds but gaining muscle along the way is something i'd like to include as well. Uh, I'm a pretty big dude, around 6'2 255lbs. Played O-line in high school, etc. I have trouble with my diet and what I should eat. ie; what should I eat for breakfast in the morning? I'm stumped. I have a very nice gym at my disposal with a cute indoor track if that helps at all smile.gif
Mr. Mojo Risin'
Eating 4-5 small meals is a lot better for you than eating 2 huge ones. That said, I lost 20 pounds in 3ish months just by eating less. Cut out the junk food, cut down the volume.
Running would certainly help as well, plus it's good for you, just be careful. If you overdo it, people who aren't at a healthy weight run the risk for stress fractures in their feet if they don't run properly.

short version - yeah, just eat healthier and less.
obijkenobi
What's your diet now? You can lose some weight but cutting out any drink that isn't water and replacing it with water.
Asuka
I dont drink soda at at, and if I have to it would be diet pepsi, usually breakfast is eggs, bacon, sausage and milk. lunch is usually sushi, chick or roast beef sandwhich. dinner is usually something like lunch or whatever the cafeteria has, which varies.
Reverend_Null
You can not lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. Pick one for awhile and then switch to the other.

How many calories are you eating a day? Once you figure that out, eat a little less. Eat more veggies, less fatty meats, less high GI carbs(Bread, rice). I don't consume any liquid calories(Milk). Eat smaller meals more frequently if you can.
D.J.
QUOTE(Reverend_Null @ Feb 17 2007, 07:25 PM) *
You can not lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. Pick one for awhile and then switch to the other.

How many calories are you eating a day? Once you figure that out, eat a little less. Eat more veggies, less fatty meats, less high GI carbs(Bread, rice). I don't consume any liquid calories(Milk). Eat smaller meals more frequently if you can.


So does this mean that I shouldn't try stuff like running (or DDR in my case) and weightlifting in the same session? Because the way I do my workouts is play DDR for about 30 mins, which gets me loosened up and warmed up, then do pushups, crunches, preacher curls, and free weights. Should I cut the DDR out until I get the muscle mass that I want? Or is this not enough aerobic exercise to really matter as far as weight loss goes?
Reverend_Null
QUOTE(D.J. @ Feb 19 2007, 01:02 PM) *

So does this mean that I shouldn't try stuff like running (or DDR in my case) and weightlifting in the same session? Because the way I do my workouts is play DDR for about 30 mins, which gets me loosened up and warmed up, then do pushups, crunches, preacher curls, and free weights. Should I cut the DDR out until I get the muscle mass that I want? Or is this not enough aerobic exercise to really matter as far as weight loss goes?

Warming up is good. Thirty minutes is a little long for a warm up but it's on the low end of even being long enough to be considered an aerobic activity(Depending on how hard you're going at it). As long as you're eating more to make up for it, you're good.
Asuka
QUOTE(Reverend_Null @ Feb 17 2007, 07:25 PM) *

You can not lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. Pick one for awhile and then switch to the other.

Oh, I meant losing fat lbs but not losing muscle mass >>
Reverend_Null
QUOTE(Asuka @ Feb 20 2007, 11:44 AM) *

Oh, I meant losing fat lbs but not losing muscle mass >>

Lifting weights is always the answer! It helps to minimize muscular atrophy.
Kefka
QUOTE(Reverend_Null @ Feb 17 2007, 07:25 PM) *

You can not lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. Pick one for awhile and then switch to the other.

Yeah you can. I mean, it's not as effecient as focusing on one or the other, but when I was fat, and then changed my diet and started working out (simply with weights, no cardio), I both lost fat and gained muscle. Or turned fat into muscle. I did something that made me weigh less and have more muscle, which leads me to believe... Weights are so much cooler than cardio. For everything. And manlier.
Reverend_Null
QUOTE(Kefka @ Feb 20 2007, 05:51 PM) *

Yeah you can. I mean, it's not as effecient as focusing on one or the other, but when I was fat, and then changed my diet and started working out (simply with weights, no cardio), I both lost fat and gained muscle. Or turned fat into muscle. I did something that made me weigh less and have more muscle, which leads me to believe... Weights are so much cooler than cardio. For everything. And manlier.

Nope! You can, though, get stronger without gaining muscle. In fact, your biggest gains will come from your body adapting to any given exercise. Muscle growth is a fairly slow process. As you lose fat it will look like your muscles are growing but that's just because the fat obscuring the muscle is going away.

The human body generally doesn't like to have very much muscle mass. Storing energy into fat cells is seen as a better option. When you have a surplus of calories, your body will only build muscles if it believes it needs them. Otherwise it'll all go into fat. Lifting heavy weights fulfills this need and will put some(Not all) of the excess of calories into producing muscle mass, as is needed.

When you have a deficit of calories, the first thing your body will do is to liquidate unneeded muscle mass. By lifting while dieting, you prevent a large amount(Not all) of your muscle mass from going to waste. This is the most important reason to lift while dieting. Unable to meet the amount of calories needed to function, the body will start to break down its fat cells for energy. It will only break down enough fat to fulfill normal biological functions, not to build muscles which would consume even more energy.

Growth and loss are completely separate. Even when losing/gaining weight slowly, you'll end up effecting both fat and muscle at the same time. Lifting helps you lose or gain the right thing.

Also, fat can't turn into muscle, or visa-versa.
Asuka
Alright, basically my schedule is eating sushi 2 meals a day or so and some kind of wrap when im hungry and running 25 minutes each day


gogogo weight loss
Kefka
Being wrong all the time rules! lol at least I already knew fat can't turn into muscle.

the more you know

*woosh*
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