enKrypt
Dec 29 2006, 02:48 AM
I like stuff like the Warcraft books...and everyone else reads...more "adult" books I guess would be the best way to describe it.
Meh...
Brent Black
Dec 29 2006, 08:33 AM
Try this, it's a nice bridge between the books of old and the books of new:
Poopington
Dec 29 2006, 04:52 PM
Sometimes I feel the same way, when I see people reading classics and all that jive, and I'm reading fantasy, but I rationalize it by deciding they're all pretentious jerks>_>
enKrypt
Dec 29 2006, 07:12 PM
I just don't find most of that other stuff interesting.
Poopington
Dec 29 2006, 07:20 PM
I'm the same way. I could make myself read it for the purported literary value, but what's the point when there's other stuff out there that I actually enjoy reading?
The President
Dec 30 2006, 12:06 PM
You enjoy reading books about WoW?
lumabean
Dec 30 2006, 06:29 PM
Not many of the topics on here are about "adult" books anyways. Harry Potter, Zombie Survival Guide and the rest are mostly fantasy topics.
enKrypt
Dec 30 2006, 07:06 PM
QUOTE(The President @ Dec 30 2006, 12:06 PM)

You enjoy reading books about WoW?
Not about PLAYING WoW. The Warcraft universe probably has one of the most developed lores out of any game. The only ones I can think of that would have more would be the various AD&D settings and Warhammer.
The trilogy I'm in the middle of reading now takes place something like 10,000 years before the first Warcraft game. Well kind of. It has a couple characters from the period between Frozen Throne and WoW getting pulled through a time rift and being dropped 10,000 years in the past...to the first invasion of the Burning Legion. Illidan wasn't a bad guy yet
Svyatogornyj
Dec 31 2006, 01:49 AM
QUOTE(Poopington @ Dec 29 2006, 04:52 PM)

Sometimes I feel the same way, when I see people reading classics and all that jive, and I'm reading fantasy, but I rationalize it by deciding they're all pretentious jerks>_>
My irony meter just exploded?
QUOTE(enKrypt @ Dec 30 2006, 07:06 PM)

Not about PLAYING WoW. The Warcraft universe probably has one of the most developed lores out of any game. The only ones I can think of that would have more would be the various AD&D settings and Warhammer.
The trilogy I'm in the middle of reading now takes place something like 10,000 years before the first Warcraft game. Well kind of. It has a couple characters from the period between Frozen Throne and WoW getting pulled through a time rift and being dropped 10,000 years in the past...to the first invasion of the Burning Legion. Illidan wasn't a bad guy yet

Don't feel immature. I LOVE Star Wars fanfiction. I also like the Halo novels. I've considered reading a Warcraft novel, too.
enKrypt
Dec 31 2006, 02:05 AM
QUOTE(Svyatogornyj @ Dec 31 2006, 01:49 AM)

My irony meter just exploded?
Don't feel immature. I LOVE Star Wars fanfiction. I also like the Halo novels. I've considered reading a Warcraft novel, too.
Read The War of the Ancients trilogy.
Poopington
Dec 31 2006, 04:24 AM
QUOTE(Svyatogornyj @ Dec 30 2006, 10:49 PM)

My irony meter just exploded?
Don't feel immature. I LOVE Star Wars fanfiction. I also like the Halo novels. I've considered reading a Warcraft novel, too.
Not sure I understand the first part. Actually, not the second half either. What's Star Wars fanfiction?
Svyatogornyj
Dec 31 2006, 05:28 PM
QUOTE(Poopington @ Dec 31 2006, 04:24 AM)

Not sure I understand the first part. Actually, not the second half either. What's Star Wars fanfiction?
The first part is a joke: I think people that read fantasy would seem more pretentious, but I suppose both could.
And I mean any novels about Star Wars. Tales of the Bounty Hunters, Shadows of the Empire, whatever.
Keats
Jan 2 2007, 11:50 AM
If you find the act of reading enjoyable enough to spend time on it, I'd really recommend trying out some "classics". They might seem daunting, dusty, boring, or some combination of the three, but if you give them a chance, oftentimes you'll discover they are classics for a reason.
Perfect example is The Great Gatsby - we read it in our junior english class, and kids got extremely into it once they'd got 25 pages in. Or Heart of Darkness.
Svyatogornyj
Jan 2 2007, 12:56 PM
I also recommend trying some classics. You may find it more worth your time to start with the simpler ones like Gatsby or Catcher In The Rye, because Heart of Darkness would probably scare anyone off if they don't go in wanting to read it.
FuckChrist
Jan 2 2007, 05:38 PM
Personally I found gatsby and catcher to both be painfully unimaginative, not as bad as dickens, mind you. The best books that make it to a lot of educational reading lists are usually the most creative ones, Catch 22, Slaughterhouse-Five, 1984, Kafka stories, and I'd even throw in some Twain and Hemingway for their broader sense of adventure.
Granted I didn't get any of these in my catholic school reading list, but I understand a lot of normal schools do.
Svyatogornyj
Jan 2 2007, 09:31 PM
QUOTE(FuckChrist @ Jan 2 2007, 05:38 PM)

Personally I found gatsby and catcher to both be painfully unimaginative, not as bad as dickens, mind you. The best books that make it to a lot of educational reading lists are usually the most creative ones, Catch 22, Slaughterhouse-Five, 1984, Kafka stories, and I'd even throw in some Twain and Hemingway for their broader sense of adventure.
Granted I didn't get any of these in my catholic school reading list, but I understand a lot of normal schools do.
I personally thought Catcher In The Rye was bad overall, but many people like it.
Anything by Twain is a good suggestion.
Kele
Jan 3 2007, 12:39 AM
QUOTE(Svyatogornyj @ Jan 2 2007, 11:56 AM)

I also recommend trying some classics. You may find it more worth your time to start with the simpler ones like Gatsby or Catcher In The Rye, because Heart of Darkness would probably scare anyone off if they don't go in wanting to read it.
I haven't read Catcher but I found Gatsby to be pretty boring. My favorite books I read for school are 1984, The Grapes of Wrath, Johnny Got His Gun and the Crucible.
Keats
Jan 3 2007, 04:18 AM
I dunno about imagination, but Gatsby has, at times, some of the most gorgeous prose I've ever seen.
Poopington
Jan 3 2007, 04:18 PM
Maybe I'm reading the wrong stuff, but about the only prose I've ever thought was anywhere approaching gorgeous was when the monster talked in Frankenstein.
I didn't really like The Great Gatsby, Huck Finn, or The Grapes of Wrath, just to name a few mentioned in here. I didn't really read all of any of them, though. I couldn't. I tried a few times, but ended up mostly operating off of class discussions.
QUOTE(Svyatogornyj @ Dec 31 2006, 02:28 PM)

The first part is a joke: I think people that read fantasy would seem more pretentious, but I suppose both could.
And I mean any novels about Star Wars. Tales of the Bounty Hunters, Shadows of the Empire, whatever.
In my extremely limited experience the people I've seen reading fantasy are usually more down to earth, and the people I see reading classics and stuff are more often wrapped up in their selves and their "intelligence." But I am a bitter wiener who ignores almost everything, so I'm probably wrong.
And yeah, there are some great Star Wars books out there.
Keats
Jan 4 2007, 09:44 PM
QUOTE
We walked through a high hallway into a bright rosy-colored space, fragilely bound into the house by French windows at either end. The windows were ajar and gleaming white against the fresh grass outside that seemed to grow a little way into the house. A breeze blew through the room, blew curtains in at one end and out the other like pale flags, twisting them up toward the frosted wedding-cake of the ceiling, and then rippled over the wine-colored rug, making a shadow on it as wind does on the sea.
The only completely stationary object in the room was an enormous couch on which two young women were buoyed up as though upon an anchored balloon. They were both in white, and their dresses were rippling and fluttering as if they had just been blown back in after a short flight around the house. I must have stood for a few moments listening to the whip and snap of the curtains and the groan of a picture on the wall. Then there was a boom as Tom Buchanan shut the rear windows and the caught wind died out about the room, and the curtains and the rugs and the two young women ballooned slowly to the floor.
That's one section I really liked.
Asuka
Jan 19 2007, 02:41 PM
i've read every star wars book known to man, the resident evil books (I LIKE THEM FUCK OFF) and the halo books are awesome
PA.
Jan 22 2007, 02:58 PM
QUOTE(Poopington @ Jan 3 2007, 09:18 PM)

In my extremely limited experience the people I've seen reading fantasy are usually more down to earth, and the people I see reading classics and stuff are more often wrapped up in their selves and their "intelligence."
Read Master and Margarita. It's both a fantasy book and a classic, it's really easy to read except for a few chapters and has a really great story. Also supposedly several levels of meaning which can make some deem it pretentious but I totally missed those levels on my first time reading it so I can't vouch for that.
Thinking about this book makes me want to read it again.
Poopington
Jan 22 2007, 08:49 PM
QUOTE(Nickolay @ Jan 22 2007, 11:58 AM)

Read Master and Margarita. It's both a fantasy book and a classic, it's really easy to read except for a few chapters and has a really great story. Also supposedly several levels of meaning which can make some deem it pretentious but I totally missed those levels on my first time reading it so I can't vouch for that.
Thinking about this book makes me want to read it again.
Thanks, I just ordered it from the library. Although I very barely read anymore, and I'm at the beginning of Hardboiled Wonderland at the moment. I haven't even read a page in a couple of weeks, though.
I have liked a few classic fantasies all right. The Picture of Dorian Gray, Brave New World, Frankenstein, 1984, The Odyssey, and probably a bunch more that I'm just not remembering right now.
Jyff
Feb 13 2007, 12:37 PM
I really enjoyed The Great Gatsby and Slaughter-House Five, but Huck Finn annoyed the piss out of me and Heart of Darkness bored me to fucking tears. Grapes of Wrath was interesting, but ultimately too depressing for me.
But I agree that classics are usually classics for a reason. I'm not saying that it's a pleasure to read The Scarlet Letter, because it isn't. I'm saying that just because it was written seventy years ago and scholars are always discussing it, doesn't mean the book can't still be highly entertaining.
The Clown
Feb 13 2007, 03:09 PM
Read what you like.
Personally, I have a pretty broad taste. My favorite book is 1984, but I'm not above enjoying The Zombie Survival Guide or Hitchhikers Guide or the Alphabet of Manliness. As long as a book grips me, I'll read it. I loved To Kill A Mockingbird, 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, A Clockwork Orange, select Shakespeare plays, Catcher In The Rye, Fahrenheit 451, etc. but when I tried to read Crime and Punishment and Oliver Twist they just bored me so much I stopped reading them. I got to the middle of both, thinking "well, they have to be classics for a reason," but then I decided that if I don't like it, I shouldn't make myself read it.
PA.
Feb 22 2007, 02:40 AM
QUOTE(The Clown @ Feb 13 2007, 08:09 PM)

c. but when I tried to read Crime and Punishment and Oliver Twist they just bored me so much I stopped reading them. I got to the middle of both, thinking "well, they have to be classics for a reason," but then I decided that if I don't like it, I shouldn't make myself read it.
As far as Dostoyevsky goes, the books really revolve around the characters, unlike say 1984 or A Clockwork Orange which were more commentaries on society. Not to say that there isn't any social commentary in Crime and Punishment, but it's really character driven at its core and if you can't relate at least a bit to the characters then you just won't get into it.
As for me, if I'm 40 pages into a book and I'm just not feeling it I just give up. A lesson learned after reading House of Leaves.
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